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01-21-2010, 10:18 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Provo,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Daytona Coupe
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Originally Posted by RedBarchetta
Okay. Then four wheels or two? Throw us some bones!
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four wheels
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01-21-2010, 10:27 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: St. Lucia, West Indies,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Unique 427SC 383 stroker
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Kirkham
I guess if my list would have been written 150 years ago I would be describing a thoroughbred stallion, or a raging bull...
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Raging bull... hmmm...sounds like a Muira to me.
I would love to see a Mangusta though.
Or even a Ghibli
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Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the strength to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. -(wasn't me)
BEWARE OF THE DOGma!! Dogmatism bites...
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01-21-2010, 10:43 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
A car in the same vein as Plymouth Prowler? Gosh, I hope not.
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When you see the car, Plymouth Prowler will not come to mind.
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01-21-2010, 10:50 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Yorba Linda,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF w/392CI stroker
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Originally Posted by Tom Kirkham
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Awesome! Now we have a foundation to work from!
Is it too much to ask for where the engine will reside in relation to the driver/passenger?
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01-21-2010, 10:50 AM
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Maybe it's not a replica of any existing design. Might be a brand new, Kirkham designed roadster with classic proportions, state of the art suspension and decent weatherproofing - windows, soft top and the option of an alloy hard top, removable of course...
And then again, it might be an XK-E. They already have the front ends...
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Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the strength to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. -(wasn't me)
BEWARE OF THE DOGma!! Dogmatism bites...
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01-21-2010, 10:54 AM
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for all the deuce lovers out there, there are currently many options. But they all need a stainless steel frame and maybe some stainless steel floor panels and aluminum body for the costs they're charging. For the time and money invested in some of the 32's I've seen, it's a crying shame they're probably going to rust out faster than the originals.
maybe something electric in a lightweight aluminum structure.
whatever it is, it needs to be able to be easily licensed and registered. that problem is just getting worse all across the country and around the world.
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01-21-2010, 10:57 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sizzler
whatever it is, it needs to be able to be easily licensed and registered. that problem is just getting worse all across the country and around the world.
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Good point. I just had ugly flashbacks of the Countach with those ramming guards for bumpers that were installed on all U.S. deliveries.
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01-21-2010, 10:58 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Santa Barbara, Ca.,
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Cobra Make, Engine: R.U.C.C. with a 427FE, toploader
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Kirkham
Jim,
Wow, my ultimate dream car.
1. The car must demand respect. It has to have the ability to immediately clear my head of any other thoughts, other than the task at hand.
2. The car should maximize driver involvement. When the car starts you should feel the car come alive, and that as a driver you are integral and necessary to tame and control the car. The car should also reward great driving, but be free of any vices.
2. It should not cost a fortune to maintain. Even Larry Ellison grew tired of the maintenance bills on his McLaren F1. Everything should be accessible and easy to fix.
3. It should be beautiful, but form must follow function. Countach rear wings, fart cans, fake scoops, and fuzzy dice do not qualify.
4. Exhaust note should make your spine tingle. I hate fart cans.
5. Should put a smile on your face as well as your best friends face.
6. Should be comfortable for long distances.
I guess if my list would have been written 150 years ago I would be describing a thoroughbred stallion, or a raging bull...
Since I was in high school the car that best fit this bill was a Cobra...and for me it still does. However, I think I also want something more exotic...something different...
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After reading the above there is only ONE car it can be!...AMC Pacer
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01-21-2010, 11:17 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Kirkham
When you see the car, Plymouth Prowler will not come to mind.
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Phew!
How about something along the lines of a Lotus Elise, Exige or even a 7? Tesla anyone?
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01-21-2010, 11:19 AM
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Pick me, pick me, I know, I know!
I wish I could share but you all will have to wait.
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01-21-2010, 11:21 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Freedomia,,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Coupe,Blue w/white stripes SB; Roadster, Blue w/white stripes BB w/2-4s; SPF installer/Hot Rod-Custom Car builder
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RedBarchetta
That's a viable choice, but I'm thinking about what is more mainstream and appeals to a larger buying pool? Yes the '32 Deuce Coupe market is saturated with quite a few players, not to mention FFR's recent kit entry. But the allure of all aluminum bodywork is a game changer for this crowd.
-Dean
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I'm not so sure about that. Steel is highly prized, but there were never any aluminum cars and I don't think there is that much of a market for one. If they sold more than a couple a year, I'd be surprised. Check out Brookville and what they cost as well as how many have sold. The same with the now defunct Dearborn Deuce project. They sold for about 20K for just the body( of course that included windshield, power windows and full top), they have been dead for at least 3 years and there are rod shops that have dozens of them awaiting buyers and there were only a couple hundred( maybe) made.
While I agree that an aluminum deuce would be coool, I doubt that most rodders care.
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01-21-2010, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by ROSS WEAVER
Siata 208S
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Now that wouldn't be too far a stretch..kind of Cobra like. I recall Barry Mcguire( Eve of Destruction) had a Siata he had a sbc shoehorned into. That body on a Kirkham foundation has a lot of potential. I don't think it's that recognizable to most folks though. I'd like to see someone, I suggested it when the "What should the next car RCR builds" thread was on GT40s, make a replica of the original Mustang( midengine 2 seater). It should be easy to power with any number of front wheel powertrains. I know it wouldn't be longitudinal like the original, but it would definitely have more HP.
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01-21-2010, 11:36 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Buzz
I would love to see a Mangusta though.
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Me too, and I'm sure that the Kirkhams could do a better job. I love Italian cars, but they have...well...issues.
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01-21-2010, 11:37 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hexnut72
Pick me, pick me, I know, I know!
I wish I could share but you all will have to wait.
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Sheesh, even Apple's newest "cloaked in secrecy" products get disseminated somehow to the public. Do the Kirkhams do a better job at protecting their secrets than Apple?
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01-21-2010, 12:18 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Fontana,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Lonestar LS427, 408w, 48IDA Webers, TKO 600, 9" Currie 4-link 4.11 rear
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RodKnock,
That is exactly what I was thinking. I mean damn, they really have this wrapped up. Impressive.
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01-21-2010, 12:23 PM
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Anyone have contacts at N.O.R.A.D.? Perhaps we can borrow COMSAT-4 and take some high resolution pictures? I know a couple ex-Navy Seals that are always looking for a challenge, too.
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01-21-2010, 12:46 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Leicestershire,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham #523, 427 S/O
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What about this?
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01-21-2010, 12:49 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2007
Cobra Make, Engine: KMP532, KC427FE, TWM
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Would that happen to be electric David?
len
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01-21-2010, 01:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Kirkham
4. Exhaust note should make your spine tingle.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kobrabytes
Would that happen to be electric David?
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Can't be electric if it needs to meet Tom's earlier criteria.
Then again, maybe Tesla needs a competitor?
Then again, here in car rich So Cal you don't see Teslas (at all).
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01-21-2010, 01:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RedBarchetta
Can't be electric if it needs to meet Tom's earlier criteria.
Then again, maybe Tesla needs a competitor?
Then again, here in car rich So Cal you don't see Teslas (at all).
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You think http://www.teslamotors.com/
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