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05-21-2010, 06:50 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Las Vegas,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby CSX4005LA, Roush 427IR
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Good luck. Even with the strange parts list you got a good deal on it. Let us know if you make a project out of it. Dust off your picture taking and posting skills as documentation will be required  |
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05-21-2010, 06:56 PM
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Location: Sacramento,Ca.,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Midstates (2001)
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there are people here on CC that would give up there first born child to get there hands on a Kirkham.......35k is not bad for what you are getting so if you have to spend another 35k to make it a true Kirkham roller........go for it...
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05-21-2010, 06:59 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby CSX4005LA, Roush 427IR
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The Mecum thing says it was sold on a bill of sale. Is there a process to get it so it can be registered?
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05-21-2010, 07:01 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by twobjshelbys
The Mecum thing says it was sold on a bill of sale. Is there a process to get it so it can be registered?
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In some states it's very easy to register it with a BoS, in other states it can be very difficult. |
05-21-2010, 07:04 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Bethesda,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX 6022, navy blue, period correct 427 SO
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Can you just get the Kirkhams to give you an MSO and use that?
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05-21-2010, 07:05 PM
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Join Date: May 2010
Location: Birmingham,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham 289 FIA, 363 Stroker
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It has a VIN on the frame and the body from Kirkham. All i need to do is take it to the DMV with the bill of sale and they will regsiter it as a 65 Kirkham Cobra with that particular VIN. Alabama does not have strict laws concerning registering cars, especially ones they think are older. This might sound a tad inappropriate to some, but that is just how this state operates.
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05-21-2010, 07:07 PM
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Join Date: May 2010
Location: Birmingham,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham 289 FIA, 363 Stroker
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dcdoug
Can you just get the Kirkhams to give you an MSO and use that?
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Or i could do that. |
05-21-2010, 07:09 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RestoCreations
Or i could do that.
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You live in a state where it is not difficult to title a Cobra. Even one that you just "find" by the side of the road.  |
05-21-2010, 07:11 PM
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Join Date: May 2010
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham 289 FIA, 363 Stroker
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True. As long as you have two sigs on a piece of paper, you are good to go in AL. We don't even have emissions checks on vehicles. You can blow smoke up and down the road if you wish.
I will probably go ahead and register the car this week as a 1965 Kirkham just in case any changes might be coming. Hopefully i will sell my 65 corvette soon and will be able to start the build right away.
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05-21-2010, 08:17 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Cinnaminson,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Cobra Fibercraft Bodies 427 S/C, 351W disguised as a 427.
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Regarding the question about the correctness of putting a 428 in your Cobra Roadster, someone correct me if I am wrong, but I was of the impression that many of the original Shelby 427 Cobras actually came through with 428s rather than an actual 427 due to lower cost.
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05-21-2010, 08:25 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX 6022, navy blue, period correct 427 SO
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperHart
Regarding the question about the correctness of putting a 428 in your Cobra Roadster, someone correct me if I am wrong, but I was of the impression that many of the original Shelby 427 Cobras actually came through with 428s rather than an actual 427 due to lower cost.
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Yes, that's right. A number of people still prefer 427s, but 428s are just as "correct".
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05-22-2010, 06:04 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Pottstown (East Coventry),
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Cobra Make, Engine: Don't think I'll be getting a Cobra for a long time... Do have '94 RX-7 R2.
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Are the meatballs and numbers on the side of the car static clings or are they painted on? It looks like they are smaller than what I have come to expect. If they are not painted on, I'd remove them. The pin stripes next to the big stripes don't look right either, but that is not as noticeable as the meatballs and numbers. If someone goes to the trouble of painting a Kirkham, it would be nice to get the details right.
I guess I'm looking at this from the angle of the buyer getting a bargain on a Kirkham. For $35k, it's kind of like a painted roller, with hopefully only needing a few thousand dollars for missing parts and proper suspension parts.
As far as selling the car on ebay, it would be good if the description of the car included the estimated price of parts from Kirkham to make the car right. That way a potential buyer could weight that along with the cost of a roller and what they think it may have cost to have the car painted. I guess the potential buyer might take the Iron Man connection into the equation, but I don't really see that adding much if anything.
Good luck with finishing the car if you decide to keep it. It seems like you got a good discount on a Kirkham.
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05-22-2010, 07:07 AM
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Location: cleveland,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX4000, 427
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I'm guessing it's going to take another $25K or so to get it to a finished roller before you even factor in tranny and motor. Suspension alone is $15K, in addition to brakes, diff and half shafts, pedal massembly, etc. There seems to be quite a few pieces you will need. See if you can get the price Kirkham sold it for originally.
Good luck and have fun.
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05-22-2010, 07:33 AM
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: Florence,
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Cobra Make, Engine: RCR GT 40 & 1966 Fairlane 390 5 speed
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Most of the original 427 SC Cobras had 428 in them. Big different in the cost of a hand assembled 427 race motor and the 428 off the assembly line. It's hard to see the cross bolts when the motor is in the car.
Keith Craft can sell you a big block to go into your Kirkham.
Dwight
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05-22-2010, 07:52 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Manchester,
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Cobra Make, Engine: AK1085 (302 Street), HTM111 (427 Comp), CSX2375R (289 Comp) and COB5999 (427 S/C)
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For one I think it is a cool car! 
This would be great to have especially once completed. It is unfair to compair it to a roller though as it really is a frame, body and uprights. The cost to make it a true roller would be $$ as it needs spindles, brakes, coilovers, non-prop A-arms, diffy, shafts, wiring, plumbing and many assorted costly extras. Hope who buys it gets it drivable.
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05-22-2010, 08:00 AM
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Location: Birmingham,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham 289 FIA, 363 Stroker
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I think the pin stripes look good. The meatballs are stickers as far as i can tell and they aren't going anywhere without taking paint with them. I don't like them either, but i am going to leave the exterior of the car as is.
I will leave it up to potential buyers to do the research. However, I really don't think there will be any potential buyers.
Im sure David or Thomas will get back to me soon and then i will know what type of price tag i am looking at for the remaining parts. I'm hoping that the spindle and hub assemblies are functional and not rejects, but i will not know until i can get the car on my lift and remove the wheels.
Im still happy with the car even if it does end up costing as much as the regular price. Ill probably sell the standard bore 428 i have and drop the extra cash on a shelby aluminum block. If i ever need to sell it in the future, i am sure the extra money in the 427 will be worth it. The 462fe stroker kit that i have will work with the 427 block, so why not.
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05-22-2010, 08:18 AM
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Great buy IMHO , good luck .
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05-22-2010, 09:52 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance 428 FE
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428 vs 427
The research I did indicated that of the original production, 120 cars were built with 427 side oilers and 228 cars were built with 428's. All were badged the same, as 427 Cobras. Good luck with your build. Rick
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05-23-2010, 01:56 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Oakham,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham 592
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A Genesis iron block will save you $1,000 over an aruminum one
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05-23-2010, 10:06 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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A Genesis iron block will save you $1,000 over an aruminum one
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Unless, of course, you run in to the "Genesis Nightmare Scenario" that 767Jockey did, and recounted in all its gory detail, right here on this forum.  |
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