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06-11-2010, 11:40 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
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On a serious note, the back panel of the interior (bulkhead panel) can/may vibrate at low spedds like at idle. After I carpeted my trunk, including the trunk-side of that bulkhead panel, the vibration went away.
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06-11-2010, 08:25 PM
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Join Date: May 2010
Location: Birmingham,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham 289 FIA, 363 Stroker
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
Don't forget the center console with built-in stereo. Oh and the self-park wipers too.
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What do you think this is, a factory five? Was that below the belt?
BTW, according to their website they are now making the most accurate replica body available.
Seriously though, i plan on keeping it pretty simple. I am currently building a restomod 67 mustang with all the bells and whistles, but i think these cars should be kept as original-at least pertaining to the kirkhams. In my opinion, that is the way they were built and for me personally, that is the way i want this car to be. Minus that i will most likely attempt to quiet down the sidepipes if at all possible.
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06-11-2010, 08:32 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: saratoga,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham #185, Shelby Alloy 482; sold
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RestoCreations
ahh, gotcha! Did you try a mcleod bearing? I hear they are the best and have minimal issues when compared to others. I am about to install one in a 67 mustang and i truly hope that i dont regret using it instead of the slave cylinder set up.
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Mine was a McLeod.
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06-12-2010, 04:36 AM
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: Fresno,
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 184/482ci Shelby
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RestoCreations
ahh, gotcha! Did you try a mcleod bearing? I hear they are the best and have minimal issues when compared to others. I am about to install one in a 67 mustang and i truly hope that i dont regret using it instead of the slave cylinder set up.
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You will.
You can drop the trans in the Mustang to fix it when it breaks. You cannot do that in the Kirkham. You will either have to dismantle the interior or pull the motor.
Da Boys were ready to make their own internal system...they chose instead to make the external setups for the various transmissions. That should tell you something...if the comments from those of us with experience don't.
Go ahead...put a McLeod in. We'll wait.
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06-12-2010, 07:23 AM
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Well, as long as were going internal throw out bearing let's not cut any corners. A solid roller cam should be interesting. Between those two items you will never have to worry about what to do with your weekends. You'll either be swapping out the distributor gear, fishing out a broken roller lifter or pulling the trans!
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06-12-2010, 07:30 AM
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Location: Hillsboro,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Scratch built CSX style frame, Carbon fiber body, 393 Stroker, T-bird IRS, T5
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I'll give you a gift I have referred to many times during my scratch build- the Kirkham build manual
Kirkham Motorsports Assembly Manual
Most helpful single item I've had during my finishing stages, which is basically where you will be starting. Good luck.
Did you get the suspension parts yet?
Bob
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06-12-2010, 08:01 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: San Carlos, Carmel,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham #625 427S/C, 468 ci Al block, 615 HP
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I agree with the key points made earlier in the thread. There is no reason to use the internal throwout bearing; the Kirkham unit is easy to set up and serviceable. I am running Avon tires and they work extremely well with the chassis. They have great grip and track well in a straight line. I really like the TKO600. I would look at the oil cooler as an insurance policy, and with braided lines should not represent a reliability concern. I don't know why you wouldn't want the mini-starter. They work great, weigh less, and give a little more working room in a very tight engine compartment. Plus, brushless DC motors are just awesome technology. The decision of hydraulic vs mechanical for the cam & rollers is a personal choice of how you want to spend your time, how technically true to the original you want to be, and how high you want to rev. I went hydraulic to give me more time to play with other things.
I love my Kirkham; it is one of the best cars I have ever owned. Jamo once described his as "perfect", and that about sums it up. Have fun.
Mark
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06-12-2010, 03:15 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham 289 FIA, 363 Stroker
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Excaliber
Well, as long as were going internal throw out bearing let's not cut any corners. A solid roller cam should be interesting. Between those two items you will never have to worry about what to do with your weekends. You'll either be swapping out the distributor gear, fishing out a broken roller lifter or pulling the trans!
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After reading the above and several other threads on different forums, i am not going to use an internal throw out bearing on the kirkham. I have purchased one for a t-56 that is going into a 67 mustang, but now i think i will send it back and get the slave cylinder system. I dont care to drop transmissions out after a build.
Also, i have already purchased a hydraulic roller cam. I use them in all of my builds these days and i have not had a distributor gear fail yet.
Thanks
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06-12-2010, 03:39 PM
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Just what I would expect from an Alabama boy. Listen to the advised and make the right decision from that advise.
I was born and raised near Tuscumbia. I have a lot of relatives there and in Cullman.
Hersh
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06-12-2010, 08:25 PM
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Nice to hear from you Hersh. Ive been in Birmingham more or less my entire life. I wish i could say that i have always taken my time, absorbed the knowledge that others have to offer, and then moved forward with a plan, but that has only come with age.
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06-12-2010, 08:54 PM
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You gotta be doing something right to get to our age. It's like John Wayne said "Life is tough but
it's really tough when you're stupid.
I sure do miss those southern nights. When the evening comes and the kids are running around in the yard catching lightening bugs. My Dad and uncles playing the fiddle, banjo and guitar on the front porch. And the smell of honeysuckle everywhere.
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06-13-2010, 11:13 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham, 427 side oiler
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I have a permanent tool that I built to dimple the LR fender well on a Kirkham. It's a wood buck that has a perfect indentation to get the drivers seat back as far as possible without hitting the tire. If anyone is interested, I've been threatening to mail it to Nick at Acton Customs so he can support this modification. To form a proper dimple, the aluminum piece must be removed from the frame and a small cut and weldment must be made at the bottom of the sheet metal piece to complete the dimple mod. I've got pictures if there is interest. The buck takes the guess work out on the hammering part of the job!
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06-13-2010, 11:19 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham, 427 side oiler
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I have a mini starter in mine...works great. No oil cooler. My oil actually warms up. I bought the external clutch slave from Kirkham. Works great. I would avoid the hyraulic throw-out bearing set up.
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06-21-2010, 12:57 PM
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Have you selected a rear end ratio? I have a TKO with a .82 5th gear behind a big block Shelby motor with a lot of cam. My rear end ratio is a 3.31. If I had to do it all over again I would get a shorter (numerically higher) rear end ratio. The motor is happier above 2200 rpms, but most of the back roads (when there is traffic on them) where I live keep the motor just under 2200 rpms in 3rd and just a little too high in 2nd for comfort.
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06-22-2010, 08:28 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: LoneStar 427 SC, "Red Venom", 351W B/S 400 HP, TKO 600 .64 OD
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Originally Posted by RestoCreations
-I have some paint that i use to mark the bolts. Its a great idea and thanks for the reminder.
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There's a product called Torque Seal for marking hardware if interested. It can be had in a multitude of colors.
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06-22-2010, 01:46 PM
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Start with a big bag of money.
Half way through the build, get a bigger bag of money!
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06-29-2010, 02:37 PM
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I would "de-cam" it and use a street carburetor. Working on the latter now.....
I would get the .64 5th gear on the TKO 600 (contrary to what all other recommend) makes cruisiing at 75-80 more relaxed
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06-29-2010, 04:10 PM
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I am building a 90's era EM kit. When I got it I got nothing but the frame and body. WIth basicly no support from EM cause they wont answer the phone...lol.. I have had to spend alot of time on figuring out things. I met some really nice guys on here that had EM's of the same era and that helped alot( thanks Ralphy).
I have a list of things that need to be done. I found that spending too much time on one particular things was making want to try and cut corners so to speak. I wanted to get it done so I could move on to the next thing. I split up my list and now have 2 or 3 things going on on the car at any one time. Tonight I might work on the body...tommorow I might work on suspension...next week I might work on plumbing and wiring..you get my drift. Dont be scared to stop work on one particular thing and go work on something else...seeing a little progress makes the whole build process alot funner.
Just my advice, but what do I know...mine aint done yet...lol. 14 months into it right now...hopefully a 12 months to go. Out of money right now...taking donations..lol.
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06-29-2010, 04:33 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pusherfans
I would "de-cam" it and use a street carburetor. ...
I would get the .64 5th gear on the TKO 600 (contrary to what all other recommend) makes cruisiing at 75-80 more relaxed
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That advice doesn't sound "cool," but it's right on the money.
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06-29-2010, 05:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickt
That advice doesn't sound "cool," but it's right on the money.
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There are probably a dozen threads debating the 0.64 versus the 0.82 5th gear ratio for a TKO. Do we really need another one?
(Get the 0.82 5th gear. It's better.)
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