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06-17-2010, 06:34 PM
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Well the bore size of the 428 does limit the size of intake valves. Note that the Shelby KC is offering comes with the big valves, 2.19 I believe they were. That won't clear a 428 bore.
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06-18-2010, 04:20 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: 1969 Mustang Fastback Pro-Street, constantly changing ongoing project!
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Originally Posted by Excaliber
Well the bore size of the 428 does limit the size of intake valves. Note that the Shelby KC is offering comes with the big valves, 2.19 I believe they were. That won't clear a 428 bore.
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Ernie, What's wrong with a 2.09 size valve? That won't breathe enough to power his Cobra?
He said he's already got a service block & a 462 stroker kit. I say build it. Do cross bolt mains & screw in freeze plugs & it looks like a 427 anyway. Since he wants a stroker who cares what block it is. If money is no object & he wants a Shelby block, then do a Shelby Block. 20K does buy you a built Shelby Block with E-Brock heads from one builder & 22.5K gets you the shelby block & Shelby heads with 2.25 valves from another builder.
If he's got an extra 20K or so laying around collecting dust then go for it. If he is on a budget then run what you brung. There's nothing wrong with a built 428 service block in a street car. Will he recoup the 20K+ at sale time because it's got a Shelby block? I highly doubt it.
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06-18-2010, 06:40 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fordzilla
Will he recoup the 20K+ at sale time because it's got a Shelby block? I highly doubt it.
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If you have two used Kirkhams in the resale market, equal in every manner, except one has a built 428/462, and the other has the Keith Craft 482 with a Shelby (or Pond) block, which Kirkham would sell for a higher price? How much higher?
It's probably NOT going to be a $20,000 difference, but the OP will have spent probably at least $10,000 to build his 428/462. So will the Kirkham with the KC 482/CSX (or Pond) engine sell for $10,000 more. I dunno, but if they were both priced equally and both cars were equal in every manner but the engine, then I would purchase the Kirkham with the KC 482 engine over the Kirkham with the 428/462 engine all day long.
In fact, I'll take one step further. IMHO, I, ME, MYSELF would pay more for a Kirkham with an aluminum block than I would for a Kirkham with any cast iron block, of course, that would exclude an original SOHC engine.
Of course, others will feel differently.
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06-18-2010, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by RodKnock
If you have two used Kirkhams in the resale market, equal in every manner, except one has a built 428/462, and the other has the Keith Craft 482 with a Shelby (or Pond) block, which Kirkham would sell for a higher price? How much higher?
It's probably NOT going to be a $20,000 difference, but the OP will have spent probably at least $10,000 to build his 428/462. So will the Kirkham with the KC 482/CSX (or Pond) engine sell for $10,000 more. I dunno, but if they were both priced equally and both cars were equal in every manner but the engine, then I would purchase the Kirkham with the KC 482 engine over the Kirkham with the 428/462 engine all day long.
In fact, I'll take one step further. IMHO, I, ME, MYSELF would pay more for a Kirkham with an aluminum block than I would for a Kirkham with any cast iron block, of course, that would exclude an original SOHC engine.
Of course, others will feel differently.
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Yeah right!
You know you would not settle for the iron block SOHC, you want the aluminum SOHC and you would save probably save yourself a ton of money by going with the aluminum version anyway.
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