I have been told (by the opposite sex) that I am quite the cunning linguist.
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Maybe Ron (CW) can post that pic he has of a polished Cammer that was being installed in a Kirkham during one of the Kirkham's open houses a couple years ago. That was a beauty and it shows how little room you (me, anyone) would have to work on anything in the engine compartment.
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I'm surprised Patrick wasn't all over that.
Only because I was unfamiliar with the term "Cliff Notes." I always read the assigned material cover to cover without the aid of elementary crutches and threw rocks and stones at those who didn't.
so many choices..street beast, FFR , Kirkham...but instead of so little time !...so much time!...Joe keep dreaming
I will pretend that you did not just say Street Beast.
Hey, it's Cheers! That was a good show, I loved Cliff and all of his doings. What was her name, the female bar tender with black curly hair? She was a trip. I may be young and dumb, but I am cultured. Dang, this thread got way off topic.
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Some of these posts are more than a little misleading, but it is difficult to deciper how much more you are actually paying for the Kirkham since they only come as a roller and not a kit as the FF5 unit does.
Consider what it would cost to have the drivetrain (except engine and tranny), wiring, 30 gallon fuel tank and lines, windshield, lights, wipers, radiator, suspension, Wilwood brakes, steering and other miscellaneous parts supplied and installed by someone else. Then add in the cost of the supplied parts that FF5 doesn't supply- true Knock off hubs and Trigo Knock off wheels and Good year tires, Salisbury differential and drive shafts(installed), fiberglass foot boxes (installed), doors, hood, and trunk hung and aligned, fire wall installed and sealed to the body and foot boxes, roll bar installed, billet aluminum suspension pieces all around, Penske shocks ($$$), High end guages (installed), and a number of other things I'm sure I'm missing.
The aluminum body isn't $35K as stated, but it isn't cheap either. I think they sell the bodies separately for around $15K, but that is just the price as a stand alone purchase. With the kit I'm sure it isn't the same price point.
When you consider the labor and other pieces as shown above which aren't included in the FF5 kit, I think the price would actually be surpisingly close between the two subjects of conversation here. Install an engine and tranny and a few associated pieces and you could be into one for as little as $70K (small block and T5)? or as much as you want to spend.
Personally, if I had the cash the Kirkham would be my only choice. I'll just have to settle for a close fascimile with a few Kirkham parts installed.
This is a bare frame and body. No other parts are included. The body has simply been welded together and not straightened. We very rarely sell cars in the welded condition. ALL our cars start out identical to this. When a customer orders a POLISHED body, we simply take the next car off the stack. If you are really into doing it yourself, this is your chance. A frame and body retails for $30,000. We will let this car go for $19,950
First come first serve.
This is a picture of the welds.
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