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07-02-2012, 04:49 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Tempe,AZ-High Point,NC,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham #684, 482FE, Mike Mccluskey build
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Originally Posted by Sandwich
This is Sandwich here!
the engine is running well. I've got about 3000 miles on it, and its runs like it should. Unfortunately I don't think we will ever make another one like this one, with the wet sleeves and all, however, I am currently working on a 2nd rendition of the billet block, but this one will be an open deck, perhaps a nikasil lined cylinder. I'd like to get it machined before the open house, but its not looking good so far.
Anyway, from what I've heard, the wet sleeve block made about 630hp, I never saw the dyno sheet, but it seems to pull really hard at 5000 rpm. Its left some brown in my underwear a few times in 3rd gear.
Dave Cindrich
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If you google the Nikasil lined cylinder you hear nothing but horror stories about this method, any news on what the second block will use for sleeves.
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07-02-2012, 05:39 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Jonesboro,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft 874 solid red Roush 427 small block 515 hp
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Save the skid marks for the street!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandwich
This is Sandwich here!
the engine is running well. I've got about 3000 miles on it, and its runs like it should. Unfortunately I don't think we will ever make another one like this one, with the wet sleeves and all, however, I am currently working on a 2nd rendition of the billet block, but this one will be an open deck, perhaps a nikasil lined cylinder. I'd like to get it machined before the open house, but its not looking good so far.
Anyway, from what I've heard, the wet sleeve block made about 630hp, I never saw the dyno sheet, but it seems to pull really hard at 5000 rpm. Its left some brown in my underwear a few times in 3rd gear.
Dave Cindrich
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Just joking!
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07-02-2012, 05:49 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Jonesboro,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft 874 solid red Roush 427 small block 515 hp
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Some old flathead V8 Fords had steel liners and cast iron rings.
Some were the opposite with iron liners and steel rings.
Some had no liners.
My dad is in a Nursing Home, but the family owned the Ford dealership here from 1929 -1967. He would know whether it was a 21 or 24 stud V8.
Do you think steel sleeves would work on FE engines with cast iron rings?
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07-03-2012, 04:56 AM
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[b]Dave, I noticed Ford is using a plasma spray coating on their new 5.8 liter engine used in the Shelby GT500 super charged car. Any chance your new billet block could take advantage of this technology?
Just wondering...........
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07-03-2012, 06:35 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Tempe,AZ-High Point,NC,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham #684, 482FE, Mike Mccluskey build
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Originally Posted by thndrrd
[b]Dave, I noticed Ford is using a plasma spray coating on their new 5.8 liter engine used in the Shelby GT500 super charged car. Any chance your new billet block could take advantage of this technology?
Just wondering...........
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Ford has a patent on there spray bore, probably not going to be able to use their technology.
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07-03-2012, 08:19 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Orem,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham Motorsports, with a prototype wet sleeve billet aluminum engine block that I made
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So as of now it looks like we are going to bag the nikasil design, and go back to some kind of sleeve design.
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07-03-2012, 09:13 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Tempe,AZ-High Point,NC,
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Originally Posted by Sandwich
So as of now it looks like we are going to bag the nikasil design, and go back to some kind of sleeve design.
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Darton will let you design your own sleeve on there website, why won't they let you order sleeves from them for your specs and use in your own block, they are really doing you an injustice in my view. Grow up Darton.
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09-19-2012, 12:08 PM
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pressed in sleeves
not sure if there's room for this design. I work on cast alum engines where the pressed in steel sleeve is not wet. also, as for the billet heads why not go two piece?
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