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07-13-2005, 10:34 PM
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: Palm Coast,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby American CSX 4241 - authentically built
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Quote:
Originally posted by CobraV8
 You're talking about ceramic coated headers, right? A chrome content of ~13% in the material (that's what makes it stainless) will not change so much about heat conductivity that you can touch the headers when the engine is running. At least I wouldn't want to try...
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Simon, you'd be surprised just how well stainless headers keep the heat inside the pipe, similar to a coated mild steel header. That's why you rarely see coated stainless headers. I use stainless headers on pretty much all the vehicles we build in our shop.
David, I work with a header manufacturer right down the road from me, who is very experianced and worked for one of the most well known custom headers shops in the country. They had several Cobra header accounts when he was there. He is not currently doing any Cobra headers that I know of, but I'm sure he'd love to be doing them. If you need a new supplier for headers, I can get you set up with them, and it would also be nice because I can be sort of the middle man for you as far as keeping tabs on progress and quality.
With that said, do you currently have a source for FE headers and sidepipes for my Kirkham? I really want a set that has the original pipe into muffler shape.
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See my car at CSXinfo.net here >> CSX 4241
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07-17-2005, 06:08 PM
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Power Surge,
We are currently working on making our own headers. We just bought a mandrel bender and will start learning how to use it this next week. I imagine it will take us a couple of months, however, to figure out how to make nice pipes. I know it is a very difficult job to make them nice. So don't anyone hold their breath! This is a field I have never ventured into before.
Suprisingly, 321 stainless has one of the lowest thermal transfers of any material. As for the low percentages of chrome, or any other alloying agent, you would be amazed at what a little bit of some things can do. Such as carbon in steel. The addition of 0.8% carbon, (less than 1 percent), will make mild steel so hard they use it for razor blades. The addition of 0.5% carbon makes normal mild steel good enough for most mass produced connecting rods in cars.
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07-18-2005, 03:09 PM
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Would you be making them to fit High Riser heads? I would be interrested in them. I'm putting together a High-Tech Aluminum Cobra and I talked to you about 2 months ago about buying parts to finish it. Let me know Michael4yah@msn.com
Thanks
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'"An appeal to arms and the God of hosts is all that is left us. But we shall not fight our battle alone. There
is a just God that presides over the destinies of nations. The battle sir, is not to the strong alone. Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it almighty God. I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death."' Patrick Henry.
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07-18-2005, 07:14 PM
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Michael,
There should not be a problem with HR heads. Let me know if we can help.
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07-19-2005, 12:37 AM
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Thanks David, Let me know when you get setup. I have a set of Dove Highriser heads that take a slightly different bolt pattern but the rest is the same. It sure would be a big help to me if you could make this happen.
Michael
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is a just God that presides over the destinies of nations. The battle sir, is not to the strong alone. Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it almighty God. I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death."' Patrick Henry.
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08-02-2005, 12:52 PM
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Hows the mandrel bending coming along? Got the hang of it yet?
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'"An appeal to arms and the God of hosts is all that is left us. But we shall not fight our battle alone. There
is a just God that presides over the destinies of nations. The battle sir, is not to the strong alone. Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it almighty God. I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death."' Patrick Henry.
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08-05-2005, 06:15 PM
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No,
We sure have some "bent" tubes though! 
Actually, it is not as hard as I thought it would be.
The machine is really great. I can't believe how easily that thing can bend tubes. What a beast.
I will keep you updated on the parts.
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05-05-2006, 12:18 AM
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Hey David, Any luck on those SS headers and sidepipes?
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'"An appeal to arms and the God of hosts is all that is left us. But we shall not fight our battle alone. There
is a just God that presides over the destinies of nations. The battle sir, is not to the strong alone. Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it almighty God. I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death."' Patrick Henry.
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05-05-2006, 09:25 AM
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LMAO!
Sorry buddy, but you're getting the "Kirkham Experience!"
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05-05-2006, 11:04 PM
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Where is Rescue Ca.? Im in Orange County.
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'"An appeal to arms and the God of hosts is all that is left us. But we shall not fight our battle alone. There
is a just God that presides over the destinies of nations. The battle sir, is not to the strong alone. Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it almighty God. I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death."' Patrick Henry.
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05-06-2006, 12:35 AM
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Micheal he's a few hours north of you.
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05-06-2006, 10:55 PM
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About an hour NE of San Francisco.
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05-07-2006, 06:03 PM
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Micheal, we have polished stainless sidepipes for for FE Cobras, they fit Kirkham & Shelbys. We can fit them to others if your local (you are) let me know if your interested.
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05-07-2006, 06:25 PM
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Just build them yourself!! I'm no expert, and I was able to do equal length mild steel headers, and set of stainless side pipes at home in the garage. MIG welder+grinder=TIG welder only for a lot less money, and much less skill required. I would not try stainless headers because butt welding stainless is not easy, and I wanted the thermal properties of ceramic coating under the hood.
-Jon
(This is hi temp paint, I'll have them coated after final fitting)
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05-08-2006, 10:46 PM
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Michael Le Fevers, I think weve talked before, probably on CC. Do you have any photos of your Stainless headers/sidepipes. I have a Hi Tech aluminum car which is real close to the original. Openings were done with the body and look to be in original locations. My heads though are aluminum hi riser from Dove which means flange has a bunch of bolt holes and may be slightly higher than med or low risers. Michael
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'"An appeal to arms and the God of hosts is all that is left us. But we shall not fight our battle alone. There
is a just God that presides over the destinies of nations. The battle sir, is not to the strong alone. Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it almighty God. I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death."' Patrick Henry.
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05-10-2006, 03:58 PM
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Yes Michael we've spoken. I do have pictures but I'm not good enough to post here. I can email them to you if you like. PM me.
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05-11-2006, 02:58 PM
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Jon, did you 1st mount the sidepipes to get the location of the bottom flange shown in the photo? Michael
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'"An appeal to arms and the God of hosts is all that is left us. But we shall not fight our battle alone. There
is a just God that presides over the destinies of nations. The battle sir, is not to the strong alone. Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it almighty God. I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death."' Patrick Henry.
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