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06-24-2007, 06:10 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Oakham,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham 592
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Are vents worth $1000?
The driver's is 500 and the passenegr the same. Are they needed. Who has them and who doesn't. Can they be added later?
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06-24-2007, 07:02 AM
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: Exeter,
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 498
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It does seem a little pricey, but very much worth it. I got the drivers side one only. I don't think they do much but general thinking is that the competition 427's had it that way. The Kirkhams prices seem high until you get the stuff after you see the quality and understand that you typically get more and the complete unit. You will be pleased with the value-I have been. Lots of times in this Cobra World you will buy the part then find how much more you still need to get or fabricate-Kirkhams typically give you the complete deal. Good luck with you journey.
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06-24-2007, 08:08 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Scottsdale,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Bought an Exact carbon car in TX. Bought a 427 sideoiler with 630 HP
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I had a drivers side vent with blower on my Hi Tech. Useless in AZ.
John
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06-24-2007, 02:37 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Livermore,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #629, BBM Side Oiler Block, 482ci, Richmond 5 speed
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My ERA has vents and I don't think they really do much. If I pull them on and off on a hot day I can't feel any difference. On a cold day, I can tell but only because it's freezing with them on and only slightly more comfortable with them off. I wouldn't pay $1k for them.
Chris
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06-24-2007, 03:00 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Santa Fe,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Cardiac, 428 FE
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I'm curious why owners say that the footbox vents don't work? I'm researching a vent system from CobraEarl's FFR Accessories that has 12v fans in it now in hopes I can stop the roast. My footbox fronts are covered with ThermoCool foil insulation, my headers are ceramic coated, my footboxes are insulated on the inside; I'm still roasting.
What method gets the most cooling effect? Should I wrap the headers? How about the space between the inner fender and the body? Should that be sealed off? I assume that the hose in the CobraEarl's kit ($180) will have to be insulated to prevent heating air from the front vents as it passes through the engine compartment so, will that help the kit work? Anybody tried that kit?
Burning up in New Mexico, top and bottom.
Paul
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06-24-2007, 04:01 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Greenville,sc,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham 427 (KMP 266); CAV GT40
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you will have to insulate the hose. I have them on KMP266 and they help but 1K is pricey. I would add an inline fan
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06-25-2007, 08:37 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP, Keith Craft
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ENTDOC
you will have to insulate the hose. I have them on KMP266 and they help but 1K is pricey. I would add an inline fan
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Or drive faster.
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06-25-2007, 08:39 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP
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Maybe it's my imagination, but with both vents open, I smell less fumes from the side pipes.
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06-25-2007, 09:14 AM
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Location: Chicago Northwest Suburbs,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 427 Cobra re-creation based on Kirkham aluminum body and chassis, Original 1965 Ford 427 Side Oiler and Ford Toploader transmission
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I have them on KMP401. Yes they are worth it unless you want to melt your shoes. Put them in for sure.
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06-25-2007, 09:26 AM
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I disconnected mine on my ERA. There like a 'blast furnace' of extreme temperature air (that melt your tennis shoes).
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06-25-2007, 10:54 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF GT40P-2265/393W, KMP318 (PROJECT!!!!!)/CSX478
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I have one on the drivers side. Doesn't do a lot, but does help. And every little bit is needed in the summer.
Passengers haven't complained yet about the lack of one on their side...they're usually too busy with other things to notice, I think.
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07-18-2007, 08:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by double ugly
I had a drivers side vent with blower on my Hi Tech. Useless in AZ.
John
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School me on these blowers. I want to add them to my car. I noticed that I get a heat gun out of the vents until I drive 50 MPH for 5 minutes or more, then they cool down. With blowers, it should be "cool" all the time. . .
Where are they installed? Size? Brand name? Whatever you can tell would be great!
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07-18-2007, 08:52 PM
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Location: Greenville,sc,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham 427 (KMP 266); CAV GT40
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first , you have to insulate the ducting. Mine has cool air at any speed( well at least ambiant temp air) . A blower from Mcmaster Car or one of the boat supply companies is put in line in the ducting. Also look on EBAY, a lot of racing companies sell them for cooling brakes. The advantage of the blower is of course to blow high volume air when going slow, when you need it most.
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07-18-2007, 08:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ENTDOC
first , you have to insulate the ducting. Mine has cool air at any speed( well at least ambiant temp air) . A blower from Mcmaster Car or one of the boat supply companies is put in line in the ducting. Also look on EBAY, a lot of racing companies sell them for cooling brakes. The advantage of the blower is of course to blow high volume air when going slow, when you need it most.
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I looked in Mcmaster, but what am I looking for. What I saw there all looked huge to fit inline. How do you insulate the pipe/hose? I assume just the area above the headers?
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07-18-2007, 09:16 PM
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Location: Florence,
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Cobra Make, Engine: RCR GT 40 & 1966 Fairlane 390 5 speed
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foot box air
I installed a 140 cfm 12 vdc vent fan with a 3" duct into the dash where it split into two 2" ducts. One for the driver side and one for the passenger side. I did this just before we drove to the LCS. I tried it a couple of time and just got hot air. My foot box does not get that hot but you know how it is. Coach Mike install one in his Cobra so I had to install one in mine. The jury is still out. Mine cost about $120.
As hot as it gets in Alabama I need an aircondition.
North Alabama, is has been 90-95 for weeks.
Dwight
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07-18-2007, 09:24 PM
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Would this work:
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/6KD70
installed right to the opening on the top of the footbox, inside? I can bolt it on, but I wonder if it would pull enough air. . .
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07-18-2007, 09:30 PM
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Marine vent fans.
They have them in 3" and 4". The 4" is to big for what we want.
I've got a pic but can not find the invoice which has the model # and company that I bought it from. I try later.
Dwight
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Last edited by Dwight; 07-18-2007 at 09:35 PM..
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07-18-2007, 09:49 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: San Marcos california,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 1989 KCC from South Africa Right Hand Drive
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07-18-2007, 10:29 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Fresno,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby CSX 4766 (Vegas Built) with 482 Aluminum Pond motor
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Can you guys that have them installed take a few pictures of fans mounted in place. Would like to keep the fan (blower) out of the engine bay.
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07-19-2007, 05:51 AM
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What brand and model? Where did you get it? Does it make a big difference? How did you power it? Lots of questions. . .
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