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[Ibr8k4vetts]

I am sure your car runs Great, I know it dose from WSCB! its just that a draft tube works off a DRAFT and in stop and go traffic there is not a lot of draft...So after years of no draft your engine will have a lot of gunk build up that would not be there with a PCV.

[Jamo]

Rob, I think your biggest problem is the lack of baffles. You just need to weld some bosses under the top of the cover below the holes and tack on some splash plates.

Mike...if you think about the oil separation tank (what most folks call a puke tank) you'll note that there's a pretty good sized air chamber in there...going to hold a good deal of gas for the moment or two one sits in traffic, and then it gets sucked out the minute some airflow creates the vacuum down below.

Now, that being said, I really don't plan on putting a 100,000 miles on the damn thing, though the oils and gas we use today are a far cry from the crud used back in the 50s and 60s, so it may very well do fine in getting there if I don't grenade the sumb!tch before then. I don't drive it in stop and go every day. I do drive it for hundreds of miles on freeways and through the Sierras at as much speed as I can get away with as often as possible.

For a daily driver...yeah fine, throw a pcv valve in there. He!!, make it a closed system. Put an air conditioner in there with power steering too.

Me, I'm driving a phuking reproduction of a nasty uncomfortable loud 60s era sumb!tch.

JMHFO...with as much humor as possible.

[rsimoes]

Maybe I can install the breathers with the tubes and run tubes into the road, like the puke tank does. . . hhmmm

[Jamo]

Put the damn splash plates on or you'll be sucking oil out of your motor. Just do it.

Do you have a hole at the back of your manifold for the puke tank tube? If so, and if you really want to run a pcv, George Anderson makes a fitting that slips in where the mesh screen normally goes...to hold a pcv. Then, you can run a hose to the induction area.

[rsimoes]

Originally Posted by Jamo

Put the damn splash plates on or you'll be sucking oil out of your motor. Just do it.

Do you have a hole at the back of your manifold for the puke tank tube? If so, and if you really want to run a pcv, George Anderson makes a fitting that slips in where the mesh screen normally goes...to hold a pcv. Then, you can run a hose to the induction area.

I lack the skills to add a plate to the valve covers.

I have the hole on the back of the intake and it has a PCV in it already. . .

[Jamo]

OK...haven't looked at pics of your motor lately.

Just have someone do it. One thing, make sure there is enough clearance for the plates...a slight bend to match the lengthwise contours of the cover helps, and don't make them too far away from the cover. You might want to stick on plates with some putty of different thickness to check for clearance (no...please don't run the motor with just the putty holding them ).

Really, your only problem with the oil seepage is the lack of splash plates. You need to deflect the oil.

You notice originals using pentroof covers without splash plates used a breather at the front of the manifold...not on the covers.

[Ibr8k4vetts]

Jamo,
You are correct! I just think PCV is a added plus that dose not hurt performance and helps the engine. BUT i'm not trying to keep my car "original".IMHO...LOL

[madmaxx]

Somebody explain how a hole in the intake can be uses as a PVC port. The intake manifold sees intake air and exhaust gases seperated by the ports in the mainfold. The valve covers see the crancase gases. Does the hole in the intake have a passage tied to the top of the head? True the splash sheilds will prevent oil from escaping but do nothing as far as the fumes escaping from the breathers. In all honesty KC should have added the baffles to the valve covers, especially since it is such a high end motor.

[lovehamr]

You could always do like the drag cars and run the breather hoses (with no PCV) to the header collectors! If you have side pipe you could then grease down anyone beside you making snide comments about your loud car! LOL

Steve

[lovehamr]

Originally Posted by madmaxx

Somebody explain how a hole in the intake can be uses as a PVC port.

Max, the "hole" that they are referring to goes into the lifter valley which sees the same crankcase pressure and vacuum as the valve covers, not into the intake ports or plenum.

Steve

[Ibr8k4vetts]

Originally Posted by madmaxx

Somebody explain how a hole in the intake can be uses as a PVC port. The intake manifold sees intake air and exhaust gases seperated by the ports in the mainfold. The valve covers see the crancase gases. Does the hole in the intake have a passage tied to the top of the head? True the splash sheilds will prevent oil from escaping but do nothing as far as the fumes escaping from the breathers. In all honesty KC should have added the baffles to the valve covers, especially since it is such a high end motor.

On the back of a FE intake there is opening that enters the lifter valley and crankcase gases are suck in with the air/fuel and burn.

[Jamo]

Rob. where'e the link to your pics? I wanna see da motor again.

[Jamo]

OK, found your site again.

Did Keith put the breathers on or did you? Normally, the pentroofs come with filler caps, which do not have splash plates below for a simple reason...you pour oil in through there and the caps seal it up. Towards the front, on the right hand side, you'll see a non-punched out hole on your manifold...that's where a breather can go rather than on the valve covers. It reaches the same crankcase area as the hole out back where your pcv valve is. If you don't want to put splash plates on the pentroofs, put caps in those holes and punch out the hole up front for a breather to compliment the pcv out back. Course, that's going to take more work than adding the splash plates in the valve covers.

You would need splash plates even if you ran hoses from fittings in the valve cover holes to a remote breather(s), which is what the separation (puke) tank actually is (caveman style).

The one concern is clearance within the pentroofs for splash plates. They don't have to run the length of the valve cover...a few inches out in both directions from the filler holes.

[rsimoes]

Originally Posted by Jamo

OK, found your site again.

Did Keith put the breathers on or did you? Normally, the pentroofs come with filler caps, which do not have splash plates below for a simple reason...you pour oil in through there and the caps seal it up. Towards the front, on the right hand side, you'll see a non-punched out hole on your manifold...that's where a breather can go rather than on the valve covers. It reaches the same crankcase area as the hole out back where your pcv valve is. If you don't want to put splash plates on the pentroofs, put caps in those holes and punch out the hole up front for a breather to compliment the pcv out back. Course, that's going to take more work than adding the splash plates in the valve covers.

You would need splash plates even if you ran hoses from fittings in the valve cover holes to a remote breather(s), which is what the separation (puke) tank actually is (caveman style).

The one concern is clearance within the pentroofs for splash plates. They don't have to run the length of the valve cover...a few inches out in both directions from the filler holes.

The motor came from Keith as it is. I didn't put the breather on the intake, because I was told that I needed at least two breathers due to the deep stroke of this engine. . . I'll look into the splash plates over the winter. . . Thanks!

[Jamo]

de nada

[ng8264723]

Did you sell it?

[rsimoes]

Originally Posted by ng8264723

Did you sell it?

Not yet. . . . .

[rsimoes]

Sold! Sold! Sold!