Has anyone used a Sidewinder in a Kirkham?

ng8264723 · #1 (**permalink**) 09-19-2007, 07:28 AM

I have a tunnel port intake to trade. An FE forum member is interested in trading for a nice sidewinder. Will it fit?

CSX 4027 · #2 (**permalink**) 09-19-2007, 10:32 AM

Are you planning on going to the side?
They were designed to do just that on circle tracks.
Comp 427's used a straight up 4bbl m/r manifold.

chuckbrandt · #3 (**permalink**) 09-19-2007, 11:34 AM

Weren't they designed to better equalize runner length? That's how they were marketed in the hi-performance parts catalog.

Chuck

big-boss · #4 (**permalink**) 09-19-2007, 01:39 PM

That is what I am using. It is what all the real MR always had.

ng8264723 · #5 (**permalink**) 09-19-2007, 01:58 PM

big-boss Do you have a pic of the manifold on your car? Does it fit with the turkey pan? What is one worth these days the tp is around $600
chris

ng8264723 · #6 (**permalink**) 09-19-2007, 02:01 PM

Here is a pic of sidewinder's from a couple of ebay auctions
chris

big-boss · #7 (**permalink**) 09-20-2007, 03:07 PM

Mine is not mounted yet, two to three weeks out I hope. It looks just like the one ng8... posted. It really is not that much off. The TP would probabbly be worth more but would take longer to sell at a good price. If the sidewinder is cherry? 600 is OK one the high side but oK. I saw a cherry TP go for 1100 bucks couple of months ago on EBAY I do believe it was NOS. The SW is defenetly not the best manifold out there but does have a cool factor not in a new Edelbrock or blue thunder or whatever else.
My engine will be fairly mild that is why I want the SW plus I have had it for years and paid jack for it on Ebay. Good luck.

CSX 4027 · #8 (**permalink**) 09-20-2007, 04:08 PM

The sidewinder was a 1966 and did not come on any 427 Cobra's S/C's or Comps that I know about. If you check the hoodscoop cutouts on original cars, they were all off 1 inch from center. The sidewinder would bring it back to center but wouldn't match up with the hood cut out.

Power Surge · #9 (**permalink**) 09-20-2007, 04:13 PM

The sidewinder is not the correct intake for a Cobra, although it looks the part fine, other than the carb offset. From what I've gathered over the years, many people believe the sidewinder was stock, because a lot of Cobras had their original magnesium MR intakes swapped for them early on. This was because you can't run coolant through a magnesium intake, so many people switched to the aluminum sidewinder, because it's what Ford was offering at the time for a replacement intake.

I believe, as Steve mentioned, the Sidewinder was designed for NASCAR type racing.

ng8264723 · #10 (**permalink**) 09-20-2007, 07:13 PM

So it won't line up with the hood scoop but the blue thunder will?
chris

Power Surge · #11 (**permalink**) 09-20-2007, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ng8264723

So it won't line up with the hood scoop but the blue thunder will?
chris

That would really depend on your individual car. Original CSX cars had small hood openings, so it would be important to check the fit. On most original spec cars the air cleaner barely goes through the hole, so it's not that big a deal. Many current Cobras have wider hood holes, so it's really not an issue, but I would definitely check the clearance to see if you need to trim it before closing the hood the first time

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big-boss · #12 (**permalink**) 09-21-2007, 09:00 AM

There you guys go again, making my fat dumb and happy life a living hell- that is my wifes' job thank you.

Anyway, Will my sidwinder with the Kirkham hood opening on my 427 S/O painted black fit?

Murphy · #13 (**permalink**) 09-21-2007, 09:24 AM

I know I had to shoehorn my aircleaner in on mine. Victor Jr. intake. I discovered in speaking to the Kirkhams that the engine is offset 1/2" to the passenger side. You can modify the base of your aircleaner to compensate. Also I found by changing the motor mounts from the original style that the Kirkhams supplied to an aluminium saddle design they make I was able to lower my motor 1/2".