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06-21-2008, 07:25 PM
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So how does one test for "chassis flex" and those sorts of rigidity issues. I mean, I've read the descriptions of the parts being in "double shear" and the like, is that anticipated to achieve a more rigid chassis? Besides the obvious WOW factor, which really is off-the-charts, is this anticipated to have greater performance characteristics other than lighter weight?
Your rookie in frame dynamics,
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06-21-2008, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Madmiles442
So how does one test for "chassis flex" and those sorts of rigidity issues. I mean, I've read the descriptions of the parts being in "double shear" and the like, is that anticipated to achieve a more rigid chassis? Besides the obvious WOW factor, which really is off-the-charts, is this anticipated to have greater performance characteristics other than lighter weight?
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One way to "test" for chassis flex is to do FEA (Finite Element Analysis). That works really well--for the first shot. The next way to test it is to simply tie the chassis down to something really rigid and bend the chassis with a long lever. We are thinking how to do that right now. You always need to prove your designs and thoughts.
Of course, another way to test the chassis (which we will do shortly) is to simply drive the chassis. An experienced driver will know immediately how stiff (relatively) the chassis is. Stiff chassis react faster.
As for performance, the car was built to perform. It is not a trailer queen. Our customer will drive the wheels off the car. Sometimes I think the guys who make really beautiful show cars have it easy. No one ever drives Chip Foose's cars. (Don't think I am dissing Chip here, his work is fantastic). The challenge we were faced with is our customer expects a Ridler type car that handles extremely well. We are up against fierce competition...he owns a Bugatti Veyron, McLaren F1, Ferrari Superamerica, Audi A8 and I am sure I am forgetting some. I told him I was going to make him the best possible car based on a Cobra body dimensions that could be made. This is what we came up with. Now, that has to be tempered with artistic license. We wanted a high performance car that was beautiful as well. There are compromises inherent in anything. We simply tried to minimize them as much as possible. In the end, I think of it more as art than I do a race car. But I always have in the back of my mind he intends to drive it.
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06-21-2008, 07:42 PM
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Here we are putting on the rear clip to check for muffler and rear exit exhaust tip clearances.

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06-21-2008, 07:51 PM
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The throw out bearing in the car presented a very special problem to us. As we moved the engine back about 6 inches, there is simply no room for a standard throw out bearing lever arm. We had to use a hydraulic unit on this car.
Now, many of you know I feel like the McLeod hydraulic throw out bearing has been banned from our shop as unworthy. So, we had to look for another unit. I figured I'd try a Tilton 61-601 hydraulic throw out bearing. Now, it says you HAVE to buy a base unit to use with that set up...baloney. We just make our own stuff around here
Anyway, you can't use the Tilton base as they don't have one that will work with an FE. So, we had to do a little modifying...(another reason the test drive is slightly delayed.)

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06-21-2008, 08:07 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: FFR: 302 w/aluminum heads, Edlebrock injection. Street car trim, no scoop, side pipes or rollbar.
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As for "crapsmanship," we have all committed our fair share of boo boos. As I look back on some of the things in life I have done I wonder what the hey was I thinking. I assure you that you don't have the corner on that market!
Hey now all my stuff works, it just don't look as nice as your's!
Yeah I understand needing the round tube to go around corners, I used round as well from the collectors to the straight sections, I was just thinking of it for the section under the car but it sounds as if you have plenty of clearance.
Some great stuff here that's for sure. This is a great thread.
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06-21-2008, 08:36 PM
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This is the Tilton 61-601 hydraulic throw out unit. See the inside of the bore with the threads? That is so you can use the base Tilton sells separately that screws in. The thread allows you to adjust the bearing height to the proper distance. Well, the Tilton unit, even without the base, is too long to use. So, we had to do a little modifying. The first thing I did was take a piece of aluminum and make a ring that we could press into the back of the unit. The ring is to reduce the size of the bore so it will fit over the input shaft collar of the Tremec tranny. Of course, the unit is too small to fit over the collar, so we had to lathe 0.033" off the collar shaft. Then I pressed the little aluminum ring (0.001 interference fit) into the back of the hydraulic unit. Then everything lined up perfectly...but it was still too long.

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06-21-2008, 08:38 PM
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If you look closely at this picture, I had to lathe the collar back 0.100 inches to get the throw out bearing to sit back further. I also had to lathe the casting numbers off because they stuck up too far and were in the way. Then everything fit just right.

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06-21-2008, 08:39 PM
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Here Jeremy is dialing in the Quicktime bell housing. We use the Quick times because they are really light.

Last edited by David Kirkham; 06-22-2008 at 02:06 PM..
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