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Old 07-06-2008, 11:14 PM
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Side view. As the collet is drawn back into the tube, the taper is what is what clamps down on the tube.

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Old 07-06-2008, 11:16 PM
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But a collet won't clamp unless you cut it apart...so all my nice work goes to the band saw.

In order for the collet to collapse, you have to cut your nice part you just made into pieces! But, as it is round, there is no way to hold it to cut it in the saw. So, I welded it to a square tube to hold it firmly in the saw for cutting. I welded it on the outer edge, where weld distortion won't affect the precision work of the inner OD and tapered surfaces.


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Old 07-06-2008, 11:18 PM
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The collet is actually 4 pieces. So, I had to tack weld it back together after I cut it in 1/2 and then rotate it 90 degrees to cut it again. I made a little tubular fixture to hold everything together while I cut it. The space that the saw blade removes allows for the collet to collapse onto the tube and clamp it tightly.

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Old 07-06-2008, 11:19 PM
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Here is all my nice work in 4 pieces.

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Old 07-06-2008, 11:21 PM
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Here is all my nice work deburred and post heat treat! Now it is hard and ready for use.

I really like the bronze color the stainless takes after heat treat.

We will start bending tubes this week!

Hopefully all our engineering worked!

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By the time you are done you will have more money in tooling than the car itself.

Can't wait to see the final results and performance numbers.
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By the time you are done you will have more money in tooling than the car itself.

Can't wait to see the final results and performance numbers.
We took a different approach on this car. We had to. With all the holes that had to line up, we had to do everything in CAD. Sometimes you just have to do what you have to do.

I can't wait to see the performance either. Just from preliminary tests, it feels much stiffer.

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Old 07-07-2008, 10:08 AM
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This is a picture of the pressure die assist die we had to make (the big one on the left). The smaller one is the clamp die. The dies for the big CNC tube bender machine we have are really big and so these dies are really heavy if made from steel--not to mention all of that die material is very expensive and hard to machine. Because there is so little pressure when bending a 3/4 tube, we don't need all of that expensive steel in there. The weight makes everything harder to work with as well.

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Here you can see how we "pin and dowel" the tools together so they are perfectly aligned. We machine the "dowel" right into the steel part because the raised boss of the dowel is very delicate and can be damaged easily. In this tooling stainless, it is extremely durable.

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Old 07-07-2008, 11:40 AM
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This is a close up of the back side of the clamp die. Even though the picture sucks, there is a hole bored into the aluminum block to accept and locate the steel clamp block.

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Old 07-07-2008, 01:19 PM
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These are the backing blocks for the dies. There is no reason to make them from hardened steel as there is little pressure on them when you are only bending 3/4 tubing. Besides, they are heavy and hard to deal with when they are made out of solid steel. If I were going to bend a million tubes, I'd make them out of hard steel.

Incidentally, this is what they call "hard" and "soft" tooling. Soft tooling is easier to make and costs less, but doesn't last as long. "Hard" and "soft" is an industry standard term.

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You'll notice the 17mm socket welded to the threaded rod, for no slip action. And the duct tape on the threads of the gas pipe handle, for maximum protection of the operator.
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Old 07-07-2008, 02:03 PM
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Hoofa,

I sure wish I would have had thought of that years ago in Poland! It sure would have helped. Sometimes the simplest ideas are the best.

Here is a picture of Joe. He is in charge of keeping the place going while I am buried on this car.

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Joe is pretty cute, but lets stick to cars n tools. I see my tube is out, What does Joe think of it?
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Here is a picture of Joe.

He sounds much taller on the telefone.
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Old 07-07-2008, 02:31 PM
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We fiddle with the tube all the time. Notice it is right out there to keep an eye on it. When we finish with this car we will get back to other fun things.

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Old 07-07-2008, 02:34 PM
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Here we are lining up the variable radius rollers. All these tools have to be held in square in place in all 3 dimensions...it can get quite tedious. If they are not lined up, the bending machine is so powerful it will simply crush the tube at worst, and leave a nasty line in it at best. Nasty lines are horrible stress raisers.

Notice the collet I made last week in place and doing its job of holding the tube in place. It also orients the tube if we need it to.

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Lining things up and making sure everything is just right.

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Here is a close up of the collet I made last week. Now you can see better what it does. It holds the tube in place, indexes the tube, pushes the tube into the die, and pushes the tube through the 3 roll bender to make variable arcs--all depending upon what you want to do.

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That's cool, Looks like the big wheel is powered too? How much more work after Solidworks till finished piece? I had to make a giant DNA Helix a few years ago, I wish I knew such a machine existed. How about some video???
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