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02-25-2008, 03:52 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham #259
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Congrats ..... and I hope she lives up to your expectation....... enjoy....:-).....
Morris
Ps 7# is what you want for fuel pressure..... thru out the rpm range..... nice and steady....
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02-25-2008, 05:41 PM
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Join Date: May 2006
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 498
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Joe was right AGAIN!
I simply streatched out the spring and bam up to 10psi then I backed it down to 7psi. Pretty simple.
PRO-SYSTEM: 820cfm with pri-78 sec-86. The main body is 950cfm.
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02-25-2008, 05:57 PM
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Join Date: May 2001
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 184/482ci Shelby
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There ya go!
Look at that blue sky with the big white puffy clouds today...you'll be driving in that very soon!
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02-25-2008, 06:01 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Very cool indeed. That's a big day, and I know it's a load off your mind now that it's up and running right. Congrats.
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02-26-2008, 08:10 AM
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I put another 25min on the motor at the sario dino yeaterday. It is running noticibly cooler now. Surprising how little breakin and things start to come together. Have about 50 min total. Maybe with the extra FP it is running cooler? I haven't even set the timing yet- that will be tonight.
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03-17-2008, 08:31 AM
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Put about 50 miles on it Saturday. Had it weighed, put some gas in it- general shake down stuff. Came back to the lift, adjusted the clutch linkage and messed with ride height, etc. Took it back to the road and all hell broke loose- Sounded like a rod went out. So I took it back home pulled the valve covers all was fine. Oil started gushing out of the back everytime I turned it off and the oil was full of metal. Pulled the dipstick all was clean- drained the oil it looked good. So I pulled the engine: Apparently I did not put the rear cam plug in far enough and the oil pressure poped it out and the plug banging around between the block plate and flywheel was the noise. I should be back in business by mid week. I also puleed the pan for fun all is very nice every cam lobe is just developing its shinny side.
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03-17-2008, 08:35 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by big-boss
Apparently I did not put the rear cam plug in far enough and the oil pressure poped it out and the plug banging around between the block plate and flywheel was the noise.
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You do know that the cam plug goes in the opposite way that you would think it would unless you had done it before on an FE, right?
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03-17-2008, 08:40 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by big-boss
Put about 50 miles on it Saturday. Had it weighed, put some gas in it- general shake down stuff. Came back to the lift, adjusted the clutch linkage and messed with ride height, etc. Took it back to the road and all hell broke loose- Sounded like a rod went out. So I took it back home pulled the valve covers all was fine. Oil started gushing out of the back everytime I turned it off and the oil was full of metal. Pulled the dipstick all was clean- drained the oil it looked good. So I pulled the engine: Apparently I did not put the rear cam plug in far enough and the oil pressure poped it out and the plug banging around between the block plate and flywheel was the noise. I should be back in business by mid week. I also puleed the pan for fun all is very nice every cam lobe is just developing its shinny side.
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I am glad that is "all" that it was. I got a little sick reading the first couple of lines of this post.
Good luck!
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03-17-2008, 08:54 AM
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That Dang Cam Plug....
On the off-chance that you put your cam plug in the same way that you put your freeze plug in (which is the wrong way to put a cam plug in an FE) you should check a couple of other things just to be safe. If you put the cam plug in the wrong way it can push the cam forward on to the the thrust plate, so check for wear. The plug itself gets chewed which can cause crap to go down the galley in to the rod bearings (usually #8). If you did put the cam plug in backwards (and KC & Barry will tell you that does happen all the time) you really should check a little further to make sure you don't have additional problems waiting for you.
Last edited by patrickt; 03-17-2008 at 09:01 AM..
Reason: Added PIC of Correctly Installed Cam Plug
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03-17-2008, 09:01 AM
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I had it in the right way just not all the way in. I used the permetex no. 2 the brown stuf that sets up like concrete and pushed it in until it was flush with back of block it could have gone another 1/32 +/- more. I can tell when I cleaned the no. 2 out of the area. I have never had that happen to me before. Oh well there was a couple of more things I wanted to do anyway.
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03-17-2008, 10:14 AM
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Thanks Patrickt- I had it in right just not far enough I will ping it in with a punch too. An old timer told me to smack it in the middle to smash it against the block- Have you seen this?
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03-17-2008, 10:28 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by big-boss
Thanks Patrickt- I had it in right just not far enough I will ping it in with a punch too. An old timer told me to smack it in the middle to smash it against the block- Have you seen this?
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Absolutely. The plug will expand when you hit in the center. A dead blow ball pien hammer and a block of wood will do the trick once you have it in. Give a nice shot right in the middle and and it will expand out. I've also heard of folks slathering on some JB Weld on it as well -- they don't pop out all that often.
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03-17-2008, 02:07 PM
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I remembered this post from the FE Forum
BB, I have never done this, but I remembered it this afternoon and was able to track it down. It's grinnningly referred to as the "Positive Stop Retention Method" for installing cam plugs. If you pop a second plug, I'd give it a try. Here's the text of the quote, and the thread (which was about Jay Brown's SOHC which had popped a plug) can be found here:
http://www.network54.com/Forum/74182...36/SOHC+Update
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Sure cure April 8 2007, 4:02 PM
Jay: I've had the cam plug pop out of an alum. Shelby block at the Digs. I cured problem by drilling and taping 3 holes with 10/32 threads in three positions. I put plug in and put three small washers so they overlap gap created by plug and block. Now, no more cam plug dropping out. Be careful of Locktite. I've had it get into oil feed hole to lifters and plug hole. LOL
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