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05-03-2008, 05:47 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Oakham,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham 592
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Kirkham values.............
It seems that Kirkhams are bringing around $90,000 give or take. It seems that the mildly optioned car and the mega optioned car sell for about the same. Now i guess my n is small based on the 5 or so sales I've seen. We all remember the banned guy with $130,000 in his car. He got around $90,000.
Here is another example:
Dear ng8264723,
This is a consignment car. The customer has over $130,000 in the car. He was looking to sell the car in the $110,000 range. we did some research for him and asked him to lower the price down to $89,900. With 300 plus miles, its a great car. Please let me know how you would like to proceed.
Thank you,
Pete Moran
First State Motorcars
Porter Nissan
303 East Cleveland Avenue
Newark, DE 19711
Cell: (302) 530-0536
Phone: (302) 286-0280
Fax: (302) 286-0285
Toll Free: (888) 668-6701
Email: pete@firststatemotorcars.com
Web Site: www.firststatemotorcars.com
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...TQ:MOTORS:1123
I'm glad I didn't option my ride out through the roof. I got a few things I thought were necessary for myself.
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05-03-2008, 05:54 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Greenville,sc,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham 427 (KMP 266); CAV GT40
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that is a nice car if it is the blue one. The motor is marginal however.
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05-03-2008, 06:19 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Oakham,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham 592
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427 side oiler block / bored and stroked to 484 c.i. Edlebrock aluminum Performer intake manifold and heads,
Why marginal? What it a poor built engine? Have you seen it run?
Chris
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05-03-2008, 06:43 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Galion,
OH
Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham 427FE (sold & missed)
Posts: 1,320
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I've had some recent calls and mine is listed @ $83.5K......not sure I still want to sell though.
It is interesting to watch the advertised pricing/sales on these cars.
Do I consider mine an investment.........kind of, but I purchased mine used and at a great price.
I know that I am glad I purchased KMP297 when I did and for what I did.
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www.mmgauto.com
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05-03-2008, 06:47 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Greenville,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 70 Shelby convertible, ERA-289 FIA, 65 Sunbeam Tiger, mystery Ford powered 2dr convertible
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I question the statement the owner has 130K into the car as the Kirkham as optioned out lists for $ 74,920. Figure roughly 20K for the motor and transmission and you are still way off the 130K mark. As for Kirkham resales, recent ones have been between 65-85K...........With several listed between 78-85K and sitting on the market untouched for months at a time, as yet unsold....
Bill S.
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05-03-2008, 07:02 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Oakham,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham 592
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I will have close to $60 in mine assembled with no powerplant. I have the motor and rear end but but as for the tranny I think I will buy a 5 speed. All said and done maybe $10 in parts and my assembly is free. So I will have $70. What could i sell it for? Who knows! But it does look like sales are way off. I laid off billet and wasteful stuff and went for more hardcore options
chris
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05-03-2008, 07:14 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Greenville,sc,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham 427 (KMP 266); CAV GT40
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the market is soft for expensive toys right now that is for sure. My car sold really quickly and I did well on it since I bought it in 2004. I doubt 130 K also for that EBAY car, that motor cost 16 or so , add trans-2500 complete and Paint-5K. 100K tops. I had 63 in mine including webers.
I just do not like Southern motors
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05-03-2008, 08:05 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: saratoga,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham #185, Shelby Alloy 482; sold
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The amount of money people have put into their cars can vary widely depending on the quality of parts, paint, upholstery, and whether they do the work themselves or have it done professionally.
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05-03-2008, 09:40 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Malibu,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham
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From this vantage point, every Kirkham needs to be assesed on a case by case basis, the car's value's Vary on quality of motor build, (old iron vs New Alum) 5 speed vs Top Loader, quality of entire assembly ... (pro vs garage novice), early cars #350 and below and registration = a quality car registered as 1965 is worth at least 10k more and options. With KCP building a solid 482 Alum 5 speed car at 105k, that is the benchmark. Some what of a recession market now, so market on a nice quality used Kirk, seems around 85k - 100k for a Quality build with say under 2,000 miles and Easy miles - not hard/track miles as I have seen. The early blue car mentioned may be good buy, @ 85k value especially if the paint is Outstanding (Quality paint is much more than 5k). does have 4 speed - and marginal engine, and the pipes and other items appear more than 300 miles. I think some newer high quality cars may appeciate a bit, as moving forward looks like potential unknown availablity and pricing for a brand new build, plus cars leaving country. Still, the best high performance hand crafted aluminum -inpendent billet suspension works of art avalaible for the pricing range. The asking prices for the sch hell bee cobra cars is still a mystery.
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05-03-2008, 11:27 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
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My response is "Who cares?" Buy it and enjoy it.
Everyone is different. Opinions vary. Wasteful to some, may not be wasteful to others. The costs to build a car can be a lot especially if you don't have the time or skill to finish them. As 4pipes states, and I agree, high quality parts and high quality work cost more. If you take your car to the track, then your car will cost even more for it to be properly setup. If you want a Weber-looking EFI setup from Thor, then add $10,000. You want a polish finish, then add $14,000.
I have never seen a completed running Kirkham sell for $65,000-$70,000. I think 004 (black with red stripes) sold for $60,000 on eBay and then later resold for $75,000. That's the cheapest that I've seen.
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05-04-2008, 12:43 AM
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Location: Tucson,
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"Thor" just sold his Kirkahm. Was quite a car for sure.
Larry
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05-04-2008, 06:24 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Oakham,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham 592
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I am building mine to enjoy it. Perhaps even take for track outings. From the beginning I dediced to not be wasteful with options. I will be buying quality components, but I don't have the disposable income to wrap the dash with leather for $300 and $5 for a ss frame. I prefer stuff to make it go and handle. I did order the brake and shock option no bling there just go
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05-04-2008, 11:24 AM
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: Fresno,
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 184/482ci Shelby
Posts: 14,445
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Whew! Glad y'all assplained it to your individual levels of satisfaction.
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05-04-2008, 12:04 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: fremont,
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Cobra Make, Engine: superformance/427 fe ford
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a car is worth only what someone else is willing to pay for it. but a well optioned cobra from shelby or kirkham i believe is anywhere from 105,000 to 125,000. mind you, that is the best of everything. BIG FE and all
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i would rather live one day as a lion, than one thousand days as a lamb.
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05-04-2008, 12:08 PM
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Location: fremont,
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Cobra Make, Engine: superformance/427 fe ford
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buy the way, i have a total of 68,000 in my cobra and it is as nice as any shelby out there............................................. .............................for a superformance.
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1952 MG TD - 53 HP 1970 SS454 Chevelle - 900hp 2007 spo2669 - 485hp 2001 Spclconst. softtail - 114HP 2006 Roadglide - 88HP
sold Roadglide.....bought 09 XR 1200 - 90 hp stock
i would rather live one day as a lion, than one thousand days as a lamb.
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05-04-2008, 06:32 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP
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The Kirkham at First State Motorcars is very nicely done. I know it well. The suspension has been updated and the car received extra TLC at Kirkham's shop in Provo. (No, it is not my car.)
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05-04-2008, 07:49 PM
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It's a rough market right now on high end Cobras. Mine is advertised at $86.5K and while there has been some interest it hasn't sold.
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05-04-2008, 11:24 PM
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There's one for sale on eBay. Pretty expensive too!
Larry
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05-05-2008, 01:06 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Texas,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX 4039 427 FE 1966- SOLD
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I wonder how much the twin Paxtons add to the build cost?
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05-05-2008, 10:41 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Pottstown (East Coventry),
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Cobra Make, Engine: Don't think I'll be getting a Cobra for a long time... Do have '94 RX-7 R2.
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The thing that I have the most trouble understanding is this: How can you spend all the big bucks on a dream car like this and then only drive it a few hundred miles before selling it? It says it was registered in 2004. So that's like driving it less than 100 miles every year since it has been on the road.
Does someone like this mostly trailer the car to and from car shows?
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