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09-13-2009, 04:47 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Tucson,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 427" 351W
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Some of you know that I sold my Kirkham to a guy in Germany. He took the car to Motor Vehicle where it was inspected. An inspector took it for a test ride. Being used to 500hp 4000lbs Mercedes, and not a 717hp 2150lbs Cobra, he spun it into a boulder. Bent frame, tweaked body, bummer. I guess Kirkham is getting him a new body and frame from Poland. Not exactly the way you want to see your car, past or present.
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09-13-2009, 05:01 PM
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thats a shame i hope the inspector will be helping to pay for his F...up........
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09-13-2009, 05:02 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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I think that will buff out for the most part.
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09-13-2009, 05:23 PM
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I believe the MVD will pay for it, but it still sucks!
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09-13-2009, 05:34 PM
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the big question her is will they find the car "road worthy" after they fix it.
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09-13-2009, 05:39 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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the big question her is will they find the car "road worthy" after they fix it.
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When it's hit hard enough to bend the frame you have to call the car "unfixable" -- not "totalled." Replacing the frame and body essentially makes it a new car, but that's probably all it needs. You transfer the undamaged parts to a new, bare-bones, Kirkham. |
09-13-2009, 06:31 PM
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Have to be a complete moron to pull something like that... as a safety inspector!!!
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09-13-2009, 06:35 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA FIA, 1964 289->Webers
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MAybe he should have shown him the Youtube videos first?
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09-13-2009, 06:45 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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That's a real legal nightmare too. If I'm the adjuster for his carrier I'm going to call the car a total loss under the policy and pay him whatever his limit was (agreed value, or FMV) and then tell him he can buy the salvage back from the carrier if he wants (I'll try and give him a good deal)... but then he's got to pursue the state for any damages above what I paid him. I don't even know if you can sue a German safety inspector when he's within the scope of his duties. It's a huge, huge mess and he will not be made whole.
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09-13-2009, 07:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thorconstr
Some of you know that I sold my Kirkham to a guy in Germany. He took the car to Motor Vehicle where it was inspected. An inspector took it for a test ride. Being used to 500hp 4000lbs Mercedes, and not a 717hp 2150lbs Cobra, he spun it into a boulder. Bent frame, tweaked body, bummer. I guess Kirkham is getting him a new body and frame from Poland. Not exactly the way you want to see your car, past or present.
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This sounds really strange to me. I know in the U.S. there is no way anybody at the DMV would "TEST DRIVE" any vehicle. They would not even go for a ride in it. At least not in California.
Really sorry to hear about this. Hopefully he can get it fixed.
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09-13-2009, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by tcrist
This sounds really strange to me. I know in the U.S. there is no way anybody at the DMV would "TEST DRIVE" any vehicle. They would not even go for a ride in it. At least not in California.
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Not to mention the fact that it looks like he was headed to the McDonald's Drive-thru.  You think the kid in the window yelled out at him "Hey! You want fries with that?" |
09-13-2009, 08:21 PM
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A harbor pilot did the same thing the SF Bay, except it was with a freighter and the bay bridge, and it spilled a bunch of raw fuel in the bay. The pilot was still held liable and criminal charges were filed.
I've always be under the impression that in Germany, accidents are treated like criminal offenses (I may be wrong here), but either way, the "pilot" of this Cobra should be held liable, regardless of his title or job description.
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09-13-2009, 08:36 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
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Two words...MO RON.
Was the "boulder" on the outside of the car or inside?
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09-13-2009, 08:43 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: RMC, carb 347 TopLoader and Jag running gear ~ so old school I time it with an hour-glass :D
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I know that in some places a crash test is mandatory - but ....
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09-13-2009, 09:14 PM
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I guess he successfully determined that the rock would win in a fight.
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09-13-2009, 11:08 PM
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In Germany, the TUV (their version of our DOT) has to inspect vehicles to a far greater degree than in the U.S. For example, changing from a non-stock wheel to a wider wheel requires proof of destructive testing on the new wheel among other things.
When I sold my Pantera to a man in Germany, I had to locate the wheel manufacturers safety tests and forward them to the new owner as part of his inspection/acceptance process.
Terry
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09-14-2009, 12:05 AM
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From happier days Al!
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09-14-2009, 12:16 AM
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How do you say "watch this!" in Southern German?
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09-14-2009, 12:46 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF_R_/BRG/FRBoss302/327CI/FordEFI/Under_Car_Exh/
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I feel so sorry for the new owner guy. -- these dont get fixed quickly. --- I hope they dont try to blame this on the car and get all ralph nader about cobras in the EU.
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09-14-2009, 01:17 AM
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I guess you could say he is stuck between a rock and a hard place.
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