NYS Inspection

[Tariq Abdullah]

Jim:
The inspection for 2006 was done by a shop I use when I'm at work. Unfortunately for you guys here, he's in Brooklyn, near Coney Island. The Inspection was done as a SAFTEY Inspection. All I know, is that I was done in about 10 minutes..

[JAM1775]

My yellow VIN sticker was placed in the engine compartment on the firewall below and to the right of the driver's wiper arm.
Jim....All I can relate is I had the same exact occurrence. The mechanic was afraid to go any further fearing consequence to the VIN record. Having my NYS DMV application file folder with me I asked the mechanic to wait a few minutes and called Tech Saftery Division's Tim Noonan in Albany. Lucky for me he was at his desk at the time ! Mr. Noonan advised the mechanic how to correctly input the data. The result was a clear go ahead with PCV Valve inspection as the only requirement. Can you call Albany's Tech Safety Division for more guidance ?

[Jim Kellogg]

If it doesn't snow tomorrow, I will be driving my SPF to work and will have one of the guys do a NYS Inspection. I will document the process here, so others can take it with them in case their Inspector has a question on how to enter the VIN, ect. on the NYS DMV computer terminal for a "Custom" NYS Inspection.

It would be nice to be able to get a 'duplicate' VIN sticker and place it elsewhere (on the firewall), put I would be very surprised if that were possible.

Jim Kellogg
Breesport, NY

[JAM1775]

Jim.....Guys have, with success, politely requested the sticker be placed at a preferred location . Good Luck !

[767Jockey]

Originally Posted by JAM1775

Jim.....Guys have, with success, politely requested the sticker be placed at a preferred location . Good Luck !

Anyone ever get one replaced? Not only is mine in a horrible spot, but when I get the car repainted one day it's a goner! Any ideas? Anyone ever done this before?

[Nickpz1]

Hi guys
I have an attachment with info from the DMV on how to register a vehicle that is “homemade”.
Call Albany for the kit from the tech group (518) 474-5282 nice people
Keep all your receipts, pay the money and pray.
My car has been on the road just over 5 months – I lost the entire summer fighting with the DMV in Albany for my appointment to get my vin number – that said the tech group was very helpful and guided me through. If it’s a new build get the DMV info early so you know what additional parts you will need for NYS inspection.
The state is mostly looking for stolen parts – keep cool, keep records and do your homework. The state run inspection was a walk through – my yellow tag was put under the dash on a cross member. The regular state inspection looks at lights and safety equipment needed for the road, Albany asked for pictures, recites and id numbers for major and mandatory parts, approved lights, glass, etc. Albany wants its tax dollar$$$$ so keep an eye on what the car cost you and keep neat records – the less work you make them do the better off you are.
If you need a local gas station I have 2 in western Suffolk that know Cobras – eMail me. Best of luck,

[fivetoes]

Originally Posted by Jim Kellogg

fivetoes,
I live in upstate NY, and my SPF went through the DMV "Custom" process, and received a new VIN and Title describing it as a (year) 2005 (make) Custom (model code) N/A and has the NY assigned VIN beginning NYxxxxx.

My reg/title does not state *NYMA*, but as you stated, rules may be different for downstate (high emission) and upstate (low emission)...
I have managed dealership service departments for over 25 years, and have a good deal of 'real world' experience with the NY DMV. If this is going to be a problem, fortunately I have some DMV contacts so we can get some answers.

One concern I have is that our cars are now over *2* years old as far as the DMV inspection process is concerned (which is computerized/automated at all NYS Inspection stattions). As of 2007, all 2005 and older (thru 1996) vehicles undergo an OBDII connection (and test) as part of the inspection process. All current and previous to current year vehicles (now 2007 and 2006) only undergo a safety inspection. When they turn over 2 years old, they must have the OBDII inspection, for which our "Custom" vehicles will not have an OBDII connector for.
For the first 2 years, my SPF comes up on the state inspection machine as a 2005 Custom (the VIN can be scanned from the registration sticker on the windshield or manually entered using the VIN on the BRIGHT YELLOW tag applied to the vehicle by the DMV when they inspected the car), and only required the safety inspection. I don't know from experience (yet) what will happen for this year's inspection - it SHOULD continue to bypass the OBDII connection part of the inspection because of the "Custom" VIN in the title. This is what I was told back in 2005 when I titled and registered the car in NYS.

Has anyone here passed a NYS Inspection this year (2007) with a 2005 or older "Custom" title? If not, I will run mine through to see what happens (it is not due until September of this year) and give you the results here....

FYI, I have heard from the DMV that (soon) the downstate inspection will no longer use the dyno, and will be basically the same as our upstate inspection (OBDII connection and test for readiness monitors only). If this hasn't happened already, when it does it should make life much simpler for the Metro areas.

My question (for the NY DMV, if you are listening) is, did my/our cars pass the NYS inspection the first 2 years because it was running "safety only inspections" - because of the year, or did it bypass the emissions phase because of the "Custom" make in the title?

One last question for fivetoes....
Is your FFR legitimately titled as a "Custom" because it went through the DMV "Custom" process (inspected by the DMV, assigned a VIN by the state, ect), or is that simply the make and year you used to register the vehicle?
If you went through that whole DMV process, this is not good....
Jim Kellogg
Breesport, NY

Jim, I went through the whole NYS homebuilt registration process totally legit.It was pretty straightforward as you know. I spoke to Tech Services today and he feels I should have had no problems with the inspection. He suspects as JAM did, that he did not enter the info properly. I will try again with my service station and if I have no luck I'll have him call Tech. I'll be sure to let everyone know how I make out. Thanksto everyone for all the help.

[JAM1775]

Good Luck guys.
Look forward to seeing you on the road this spring !

Oh....almost forgot ............stay away from that guy Nickpz1.
He's a real hot rodder and will get you into trouble !!

[Jim Kellogg]

Wasn't able to drive the SPF to work today to run it through a NYS Inspection to see what would come up - it snowed all day

fivetoes,
I am sure you will be all right if your inspection station calls Tech at the DMV. My biggest concern is that because we are heading into 'year 3' of inspections for our 2005 Custom registrations, the system might not properly identify our cars as NOT requiring the OBDII portion of the inspection that all other 2005 vehicles will have to pass for the first time. I am also curious how the machine will outline the process for the inspector - that's why I want to run mine through early, and if neccesary outline any special proceedures that the inspector might have to take....

How's the weather down your way?
Jim Kellogg
Breesport, NY

[AK1234]

Did any of you guys buy your cars as rollers and try to register them or did you actually buy them as akit and assemble them .. a roller did you get an MSO with your kit that looked like a " certificate"

[Jim Kellogg]

My SPF came as a roller (as all SPF do) with an MSO "certificate". The DMV used the MSO, the serial number of the engine I purchased, and the serial number of the transmission I purchased to establish a NY Custom VIN.

The link given above by Nickpz1 will get you started. Just give NYS a call at the number listed to get your information packet, so you can get started. The guys at NYS DMV Tech Services are very helpful - be sure to ask them any questions you might have, and they will help you out....
Jim Kellogg
Breesport, NY

[Nickpz1]

"Oh....almost forgot ............stay away from that guy Nickpz1.
He's a real hot rodder and will get you into trouble !!" JAM1775

Right! This from a guy that can hear you downshift 2 lanes away on the parkway at 60, and he's gone before your trany makes the second click...
Ask any of the guys - he's always picking on them "making" them race.
He's just a show off!!!!
Oh by the way he also tends to win - stay away from that guy!
He's a real hot rodder and will get you into trouble !!

[fivetoes]

OK, here is the deal. My inspector called Tech Services in Albany and they walked him through the procedure. Had to only have emissions devices based on year of engine (1972) which was a PCV valve and pass a gas cap pressure test. Then I had to pass an emmisions idle test (tailpipe sniffer). Fortunately the parameters were from 1972: 700 HC and 6.00 CO. I passed and have no issues for another year. I'm curious what parameters they set for crate engines purchased new. Thanks for everyones help and input in this matter.
See you on the road! Jim

[streetrod1927]

Lucas tail light numbers L-542...

RAC

[MY 401K]

Guys,
My Snake is registered as a 2001 Custom and I need a SNIFF (IDLE) test before I can register it. I was told by Tech Services that all counties south of Rockland which includes Nassau and Suffolk will require the Sniff Test on all cars registered as CUSTOMS no matter what year the engine is. That is why we must write or e-mail our congressman to support the bill.
John

[boris_thespider]

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