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Old 06-22-2010, 11:29 AM
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Default DSL Down & Up Load Speeds ?

Opinion please, these home DSL speeds with standard service are poor, fair, good, very good or excellent ?

Download Speed: 2549 kbps (318.6 KB/sec transfer rate)

Upload Speed: 432 kbps (54 KB/sec transfer rate)

What speeds for Download & Upload would be considered to be excellent ?

Not having the tech background, why the major difference between Down & Up Speeds ?

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There are too many variables to say, but that could be considered typical.

There are 3 basic technologies available to your provider:
ADSL
ADSL2+
VDSL
Each has its bandwidth capacity
Telcos provided various tiers of service with each technology.
DSL is affected by distance
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Old 06-22-2010, 01:13 PM
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Paul, checked with the ISP, I have ADSL 1.3. Upload was considered to be low, no explanation provided other than the standard remedy of of reset/restart the modem and computer

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I have broadband internet with Suddenlink Cable, which I know is typically faster than DSL. For you to compare, I just did a test:

Download Speed: 10928 kbps (1366 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 1063 kbps (132.9 KB/sec transfer rate)

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Don,

I missed your question about why the difference between upstream and downstream speeds. Operators always assumed DSL and Cable service were primarily for residential service. At the time of specifying these technologies, residential use was mainly downloading web pages, music, and videos. It was never considered that high upload bandwidth would be of that much importance. So the available bandwidth was heavily allocated towards download speeds rather than upload speeds.
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My DSL is a 7mbit link, so my link from the house to the central office is 7168kbit download. The maximum upload rate for DSL is 896kbit. Out of that Speedtest.net tells me I deliver:

5.69Mbit/sec download
740kbit/sec upload

Efficiency = 5.69/7.168 = 79% download
740/896 = 82.6

There is a new fiber-optic dependent (note, not based) DSL that Qwest is saying can deliver 20Mbit/sec or higher. They use fiber optics to your neighborhood "pedestal" and then copper to your home. Since the copper is a much shorter haul they can get more speed from it.

Also, virtually all DSL modems will have a maintenance interface that you can examine to see what the modem negotiated from your home to the central office. If they are not what you are paying for then you should complain to the telephone company. It could be that the connection's connections have degraded.

One of the biggest problems with DSL links get the filters stacked up. I managed to get a DSL filter that fits in the outside box and then wired a Cat5 cable directly from the modem to the box (e.g., "Line 3").

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Don,

I can't get the highest speeds in this area, but I use this test site.

http://myspeed.visualware.com/index.php

My upload speed is normally 656 to 658 kbs and my download speed is 5.13 to 5.15 mbs. It gives me a read out that my connection is performing at 99% efficiency and that it will handle VOP and such. It will give you several things to look at and compare with.

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My initial inquiry resulted from repetitive connection issues, wanted to check if I was getting the level of service, up and down load speeds, that I was paying for. Probably, some frustration on my part, when I state at the onset to the ISP no changes to my connections/hardware and have already reset the modem, performed a restart , reconnected all the cables, etc., etc.,

There are limitations in my area/street as to the level of service, but all speed options from the ISP are stated with the clarifier as " up to " as opposed to minimum to be realized. Maybe this is common within the Industry, but guessing that there should be at least a conditional statement such as , " minimum to be realized XX % of the time. Now to question the actual vs. option selected vs service paid for.

All: Thanks and appreciate the feedback as this was a first time experience on evaluating my DSL service speeds.
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" I managed to get a DSL filter that fits in the outside box "

Was the filter installed by the phone company or, suggestions as to where i can obtain ?

My residence, having been built in the early 1970's, internally has the old style twisted telephone wiring. I have CAT 5 from the outside box to the initial junction box just inside the house. Running a separate internal direct CAT 5 line for the modem only .......thanks, good suggestion
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Speed test statistics
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Download speed: 640072 bps
Upload speed: 325064 bps
Download consistency of service: 58 %
Upload consistency of service: -- %
Download test type: HTTP
Upload test type: HTTP
Maximum TCP delay: 558 ms
Average download pause: 110 ms
Minimum round trip time to server: 54 ms
Average round trip time to server: 60 ms
Estimated download bandwidth: 752000bps
Route concurrency: 1.1748679
Download TCP forced idle: 0 %
Maximum route speed: 9708888bps
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" I managed to get a DSL filter that fits in the outside box "

Was the filter installed by the phone company or, suggestions as to where i can obtain ?

My residence, having been built in the early 1970's, internally has the old style twisted telephone wiring. I have CAT 5 from the outside box to the initial junction box just inside the house. Running a separate internal direct CAT 5 line for the modem only .......thanks, good suggestion
Yes, the dsl filter was installed by the phone company. Essentially it's a splitter - the incoming wire goes to the filter. The voice side to the old line location and the DSL side to a "second line" terminal in the box. I knew one of the local phone guys before he retired so I knew what to ask for.

I wired my house myself (all of it, there are three miles of AC wiring). After I got the splitter in I just peeled off a pair from the punch panel to a jack, and the DSL modem is in the basement right at the panel. Wireless worked OK from there but I got a separate antenna with a magnetic mount and stuck it to the circuit breaker panel up higher.

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" then wired a Cat5 cable directly from the modem to the box "

Installed an isolated direct CAT 5 line directly from the DSL modem to the telephone junction box , no other devices on this line. While any speed increases were not detected, the occasional blinking of the DSL light on the modem is gone, hopefully will be more consistent service

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" then wired a Cat5 cable directly from the modem to the box "

Installed an isolated direct CAT 5 line directly from the DSL modem to the telephone junction box , no other devices on this line. While any speed increases were not detected, the occasional blinking of the DSL light on the modem is gone, hopefully will be more consistent service

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Your modem should have a maintenance port (usually 192.168.0.1 or 10.0.1.1) that can tell you the native DSL link speed. It will also probably have an "up time" that can be used to see if the link is reset. Does your voice service sound scratchy (interference) or clicks and pops? If voice isn't solid then data won't be either.

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