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10-10-2014, 03:33 AM
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EBOLA --Truth please
I was going to post my question on CNN's site first but their news/information is so lopsided I am trying here first.
Ebola has been told to the world wide public that it is only passed on by bodily fluids of some type!
Now a fourth Dr has died, countless nurses and aids have died and ALL of them are wearing full Hazmat suits from hoods, to masks and fairly recently goggles.
Am I the only one thinking that something is wrong with this scenario!? That OUR own medical people are contracting Ebola because "THEY" don't know how to wear the protective gear properly?
Just a question I would like an answer to?
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10-10-2014, 05:26 AM
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Agreed. Maybe it is a "conspiracy theory", but it seems like this hard to transmit disease sure is getting passed around rather easily by supposedly trained professionals. One might think that the disease has become partially airborne since there are now reports of people getting the disease that had no direct contact with the original Ebola patient. Also, I thought they originally stated it took like 7 days before a person was really sick. Now they are saying 21 days. That is a long time for a person to run around without knowing they have the disease.
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10-10-2014, 05:41 AM
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I am not sure how true this may be but supposedly it was put out by the CDC and others who work and know about this.
How Do You Get Ebola?
Ebola isn’t as contagious as more common viruses like colds, influenza, or measles. It spreads to people by contact with the skin or bodily fluids of an infected animal, like a monkey, chimp, or fruit bat. Then it moves from person to person the same way. Those who care for a sick person or bury someone who has died from the disease often get it.
Continue reading below...
Other ways to get Ebola include touching contaminated needles or surfaces.
You can’t get Ebola from air, water, or food. A person who has Ebola but has no symptoms can’t spread the disease, either.
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10-10-2014, 07:05 AM
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Ron, thank you. You made my point for me.
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10-10-2014, 07:12 AM
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Hmm!
Look what CNN just released. Ron your dead on!
This is the messy truth about Ebola - CNN.com Video
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10-10-2014, 12:32 PM
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Quoting CNN on any subject is political. I thought that that was off limits.
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10-10-2014, 12:57 PM
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Bliss,
Excuse me please but I had no idea that "Ebola" was political! The same information that CNN posted had been posted by "Huffpost, and reported by all major channels as the same!
I don't give a rats ^^^ about the politics! I want to know why so many professional and educated people are dying with the uneducated?
Don't make this political!
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10-11-2014, 03:04 AM
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I too had been wondering how so many people that are supposed to know how to handle stuff like this were getting infected. I don't see how anyone can think asking a question about a desiese and how it is spread could be considered political.
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10-11-2014, 07:36 AM
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Well, when you can prove to me the world stops changing, then I will believe the CDC or whomever knows everything about the virus. Things mutate and change all the time due to thousands of factors. This is how we ended up with multiple strains of the Ebola virus...mother nature found a way for the original virus to mutate.
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10-11-2014, 12:35 PM
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Quoting CNN on any subject is political. I thought that that was off limits.
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CDC is also political. Heck, WHO is too.
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10-12-2014, 07:18 AM
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A "low Risk" health care worker at the hospital in Dallas is confirmed positive overnight. Had cared for Duncan and had been wearing all the protective gear.
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10-12-2014, 07:20 AM
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This is why my original question was asked and this makes it even more prevalent!
This is a quote, (Sunday, October 12, 2014 from the TEXAS hospital and reported by FOX News.)
"The health (*) care worker is in stable condition, Texas Health Resources chief clinical officer Dan Varga said. The worker was involved in Duncan's* second visit to the hospital, when he was admitted to treatment, and was wearing protective gear."
(*)Texas Health care worker who assisted in the first Ebola case in U.S. and now has become the first person resulting in the transfer of Ebola in the U.S. .
*Duncan passed away three days (?) ago from Ebola.
DV -same question- no answers......
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10-12-2014, 07:44 AM
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It could be something as simple as poor procedure of removing the protective gear, to underestimating the life of transmission for droplets. Figure 100 people come in contact with one ebola patient while wearing protective gear, one person fails to follow the correct procedure, and there you have 1 percent that is exposed to ebola. That is completely plausible, unfortunate, but plausible.
I would think that if it were truly airborne, far more people would have contracted ebola by now.
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10-12-2014, 07:48 AM
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This was in my post # 3 and I also said that I didn't know if what they said was true, I was just posting what was released by a supposedly CDC person.
You can’t get Ebola from air, water, or food. A person who has Ebola but has no symptoms can’t spread the disease, either.
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10-12-2014, 08:35 AM
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It could be something as simple as poor procedure of removing the protective gear, to underestimating the life of transmission for droplets. Figure 100 people come in contact with one ebola patient while wearing protective gear, one person fails to follow the correct procedure, and there you have 1 percent that is exposed to ebola. That is completely plausible, unfortunate, but plausible.
I would think that if it were truly airborne, far more people would have contracted ebola by now.
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This brings up a good point. I wonder how many people the hospital would allow to come in contact with an infected patient? I would assume they would keep it down to 5-10 people at most, but the more people you have, the greater the chance of a mistake.
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10-12-2014, 08:36 AM
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Suppose, Plausible, carelessness, percentage, accident, carelessness & the excuses and the unknown go on and on ?
Here's one for you: Thousands of deaths, hundreds of Dr's. and care takers included.
1st patient in the U.S. being treated for Ebola (who by the way just passed away).
BUT, I suppose since WE see so many of these "QUARANTINED" patients, who has been put OFF LIMITS for everyone but a very few.....
For those that think it is carelessness on the aid worker, Dr., nurse (The Hazmat suits are being anti-aseptically sprayed like being in a shower BEFORE they are removed!!)
Plausible!? This is where I say in MY opinion BS.
Plausible? " We " are going to find out sooner or later.
I just want the truth. Who cares that a long time Dr. donned a Hazmat suit weeks ago and was protesting publicly in the Atlanta (?) airport about "our" handling of Ebola cases?
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10-12-2014, 08:45 AM
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Alrighty then,
I'm starting to sound like a paranoid "Chicken Little". Heck I'm in Northwest Michigan and as old as a wrinkled prune, how safe can you be?
I just asked "the question" and now I will sit back and see if concrete answers without speculation show up............
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10-12-2014, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by joyridin'
This brings up a good point. I wonder how many people the hospital would allow to come in contact with an infected patient? I would assume they would keep it down to 5-10 people at most, but the more people you have, the greater the chance of a mistake.
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The Dallas guy was in the hospital for 10 days. 3 shift changes/day, alternating schedules/all kinds of different specialists/all kinds of different .gov workers/etc etc. So 10 days in "isolation" would still mean a lot of different people going in and out.
I would say that for a one week stay, it was far more than 5-10 people.
But I'm not a doctor either and I really have no clue about much of this stuff, just giving my best guess.
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10-12-2014, 09:09 AM
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There you have it....
And the internet goes on...............
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10-12-2014, 09:26 AM
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The good news is that you, in Michigan, this year, are far more likely to die from the flu than ebola. Especially if you are old. I guess that's good news.
What kind of information were you expecting to hear?
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