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[4RE KLR]

Originally Posted by Joe Wicked

Steve, the reason those specs seem so much different is the Trojans are giving you Cranking amps like you would normally see in a car battery and the others are giving you Amp Hours. Cranking amps gives you the amount of juice you get at an instant (turning starter is more important on a car). Amp Hours gives you the time the battery will last at a specific load. (More important that initial start up power on battery powered carts). Both are a measure of the batteries power, but I would be more concerned with comparing the Amp Hours between the two.

How do I get that information on the Auto Zone Batteries?

I see it on the Trojans, but I don't see that info on the AZ batteries.

[Ron61]

Steve,

Autozone should have a chart that will give you the specs on their batteries. As Joe said, in your case Cranking Amps isn't as important as in a car. You need batteries with more capacity that will last longer.

Ron

[HI Cobra]

Steve,

If you are looking at replacing the batteries in the golf cart be sure to stick
with the deep cycle batteries, which are made to be drained and recharged
many times - much heavier guts/lead plates. I don't think car batteries would
last long in that application. Same as not using a deep cycle battery in a car.
They are made for different applications - may work short term but not for
the long haul and could mess up the charger/alternator. IMHO

[4RE KLR]

Flip,
That is exactly what I am afraid of.

These things cost a lot of money, to buy them all and I don't want to screw up and have six batteries I can't use.

[392cobra]

Mike,
I thought of you when I read this. How's the toe ?

http://hdforums.com/forum/5334078-post1.html

[HI Cobra]

Steve,

I'm guessing the batteries are for the cart. Just to be safe you may want to
call whoever sells the carts in your area and see what they recommend. I
used mine in Kalaupapa, Molokai and I am sure I had the Trojans - you treat
them right and you should get about 6 years of use. In my case I would
sometimes be away for several months at a time and it never let me down.
That is one place where there is no store etc and the supply barge only makes
the trip once a year so one does have to plan ahead! I use the deep cycles on
my scissors lifts also and actually got 10 years off of one set. That is what
they are for so: if the batteries are for the cart go with the deep cycles.

[Ron61]

Flip,

I don't remember the brand but back when I had the big car trailer I had deep cycle batteries in it and they weren't Trojans. I haven't seen that brand around here. I got mine with the trailer and then replaced them with another brand that I got from one of the Marinas. And they were expensive and require a charger that has a deep cycle setting on it.

Ron

[Ron61]

Dentist Day!!!! MODERATOR NOTE: If this is to long just delete it.

AAADD
KNOW THE SYMPTOMS.....PLEASE READ!

Thank goodness there's a name for this disorder.
Somehow I feel better even though I have it!!

Recently, I was diagnosed with A.A.A.D.D. -
Age Activated Attention Deficit Disorder.

This is how it manifests:

I decide to water my garden.
As I turn on the hose in the driveway,
I look over at my car and decide it needs washing.

As I start toward the garage,
I notice mail on the porch table that
I brought up from the mail box earlier.

I decide to go through the mail before I wash the car.

I lay my car keys on the table,
put the junk mail in the garbage can under the table,
and notice that the can is full.

So, I decide to put the bills back
on the table and take out the garbage first.

But then I think,
since I'm going to be near the mailbox
when I take out the garbage anyway,
I may as well pay the bills first.

I take my check book off the table,
and see that there is only one check left.
My extra checks are in my desk in the study,
so I go inside the house to my desk where
I find the can of Pepsi I'd been drinking.

I'm going to look for my checks
but first I need to push the Pepsi aside
so that I don't accidentally knock it over.

The Pepsi is getting warm,
and I decide to put it in the refrigerator to keep it cold.

As I head toward the kitchen with the Pepsi,
a vase of flowers on the counter
catches my eye--they need water.

As I put the Pepsi on the counter and
discover my reading glasses that
I've been searching for all morning.
I decide I better put them back on my desk,
but first I'm going to water the flowers.

I set the glasses back down on the counter,
fill a container with water and suddenly spot the TV remote.
Someone left it on the kitchen table.

I realize that tonight when we go to watch TV,
I'll be looking for the remote,
but I won't remember that it's on the kitchen table,
so I decide to put it back in the den where it belongs,
but first I'll water the flowers.

I pour some water in the flowers,
but quite a bit of it spills on the floor.

So, I set the remote back on the table,
get some towels and wipe up the spill.

Then, I head down the hall trying to
remember what I was planning to do.

At the end of the day:
the car isn't washed
the bills aren't paid
there is a warm can of Pepsi sitting on the counter
the flowers don't have enough water,
there is still only 1 check in my check book,
I can't find the remote,
I can't find my glasses,
and I don't remember what I did with the car keys.
Then, when I try to figure out why nothing got done today,
I'm really baffled because I know I was busy all darn day,
and I'm really tired.

I realize this is a serious problem,
and I'll try to get some help for it,
but first I'll check my e-mail....

Don't laugh -- if this isn't you yet, your day is coming!!

Ron

[4RE KLR]

Flip,

Yes, the batteries are (will be) for the cart. There are 6 -6 volts in the cart. If you have ever seen a Trojan battery you would remember it. (I think) They are sort of red, burgundy in color and have Trojan written all over them. There is no doubt what they are.

I have spoken to several of the cart companies around here. Some say Trojans are the Rolls Royce of cart batteries, while others say the Interstate equivalent are better. Others yet still say the NAPA 8144 is even better. So, who is right?

Honestly, I think is is like Cobras. Some like the big block, some like the small block. I think it is a matter of opinion, or which ones the Cart company happens to sell.

I am really trying to do my homework here, because they are so expensive to buy all 6 at one time.

Yamaha, the cart manufacturer, does not recommend a particular brand, but rather the necessary specs. That is understandable if you look at the big picture.

I also agree with you that proper maintenance will help them to last a good long time.

[4RE KLR]

Ron,
I was going to comment on your post, but I fogot what I was going to say.


No - really

[Joe Wicked]

Steve,
As Ron said, Autozone and Napa should both have the specs available that you need to compare. They don't list them as they want you to take the time to call/come in as they know if you do come in, you are likely to just go ahead and buy it.

[Ron61]

Steve,

For your application you are more interested in the capacity of the batteries than the cranking amps. Also find out what level of charge they recommend using. My charger has a deep cycle setting on it, but I had to ask the company that made my batteries what amp rate they recommended for them. It can change depending on the capacity.

Ron

[Ibr8k4vetts]

Originally Posted by 392cobra

Mike,
I thought of you when I read this. How's the toe ?

http://hdforums.com/forum/5334078-post1.html

Thanks for asking, It has been getting better every day I have been going to work in tennis shoe's for a week and all was good today I put on my work boots and it was a little painful but good then at work my boots got wet trying to get them off was not fun! back to tenny's tomorrow.

[HI Cobra]

Back to Steve - As of late I sure didn't buy the RR batteries on the last go
around. I think I got the mid price batteries which were about $90 ea ?
It's been a while, pardon the lack of memory! The main thing I was trying to
clarify was that they were for a golf cart, and if so, only a deep cycle should
be used. I have had a few EZGO's and they come in handy on large job
sites. I usually get at least 4 years out of the batteries, usually much more.

[Ron61]

Fore all of you with cool weather of under 110. Yesterday it was 118 here and even Redding admitted to 115. It could be hotter today and tomorrow but is supposed to drop down to a high of 98 on Friday. That will be like a cold blast of air from the Gulf of Alaska.

Fred,
I got the Chiller Band out and soaked it again and am wearing it every time I have to go outside for any reason. It is amazing that it keeps me from almost fainting after a few minutes in this heat. But nothing can stop this instant sweat. Opening the house door is like sticking your head in an oven when that blast of hot air comes in.

Ron

[Ron61]

Just got back from the grocery store and it is already 83 here at 3AM. This is supposed to continue until Friday when for the first time in a week or so it will drop to double digits. Fridays high is supposed to just be 98. That will seem like a cool blast of air from the sea of Alaska. People will be wearing coats.

Ron

[392cobra]

Glad that Chiller Band is working for you.We don't need to hear about you doing a sunny side up on the driveway.
I really like mine too.Here lately I haven't needed to soak it in the sink.I just have to walk outside with it around my neck.

[Ron61]

Fred,

I hadn't expected this record heat so soon and I let mine dry up. But it is back in use now. Now if I could just find something to do away with this red dust.

Ron

[4RE KLR]

Good Morning everyone

-------------

On the first day, God created the dog and said:

'Sit all day by the door of your house and bark at anyone who comes in or walks past. For this, I will give you a life span of twenty years.'

The dog said: 'That's a long time to be barking. How about only ten years and I'll give you back the other ten?'

So God agreed.

On the second day, God created the monkey and said:

'Entertain people, do tricks, and make them laugh. For this, I'll give you a twenty-year life span.'

The monkey said: 'Monkey tricks for twenty years? That's a pretty long time to perform. How about I give you back ten like the Dog did?'

And God agreed.

On the third day, God created the cow and said:

'You must go into the field with the farmer all day long and suffer under the sun, have calves and give milk to support the farmer's family. For this, I will give you a life span of sixty
years.'

The cow said: 'That's kind of a tough life you want me to live for sixty years. How about twenty and I'll give back the other forty?'

And God agreed again.

On the fourth day, God created man and said:

'Eat, sleep, play, marry and enjoy your life. For this, I'll give you twenty years.'

But man said: 'Only twenty years? Could you possibly give me my twenty, the forty the cow gave back, the ten the monkey gave back, and the ten the dog gave back ; that makes eighty, okay?'

'Okay,' said God, 'You asked for it.'

So that is why for our first twenty years we eat, sleep, play and enjoy ourselves.. For the next forty years we slave in the sun to support our family. For the next ten years we do monkey tricks to entertain the grandchildren. And for the last ten years we sit on the front porch and bark at everyone.

Life has now been explained to you.

[4RE KLR]

Originally Posted by HI Cobra

Back to Steve - As of late I sure didn't buy the RR batteries on the last go
around. I think I got the mid price batteries which were about $90 ea ?
It's been a while, pardon the lack of memory! The main thing I was trying to
clarify was that they were for a golf cart, and if so, only a deep cycle should
be used. I have had a few EZGO's and they come in handy on large job
sites. I usually get at least 4 years out of the batteries, usually much more.

Thanks Flip.
I have figured out that other batteries will work as long as they are deep cycle, as you said.

There are other alternatives but they still cost about $100 each now.