Can't We All Get Along?

imagine2frolic · #1 (**permalink**) 10-11-2007, 09:17 AM

Now this is a novel idea. We could actually get along with eachother. A letter to the Pope from Muslim leaders. This will be interesting to follow.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071011/...N2lBBC8Qms0NUE

VRM · #2 (**permalink**) 10-11-2007, 10:01 AM

I2F,
We can't even get along in the Lounge!!

Steve

Ron61 · #3 (**permalink**) 10-11-2007, 11:46 AM

Careful with the WE part.

If everyone got along and agreed on everything how would we ever learn eanything?

Who leads in getting threads locked down?

Ron

bomelia · #4 (**permalink**) 10-11-2007, 12:00 PM

Ar ar ar!!

Mike

wtm442 · #5 (**permalink**) 10-11-2007, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron61

Who leads in getting threads locked down?

Ron

Its seems its always Jamo who gets in the last words, and they are concise and to the point.

Jamo · #6 (**permalink**) 10-11-2007, 01:01 PM

Actually, I'm just the button pusher (though, in my previous life I may be remembered for a closing more than a few myself...).

C'works has closed more than I have, but I sorta have the Lounge to watch (Ron wouldn't mind closing the entire thing.

), so you'll notice me more here.

As to whom causes the most threads to be closed (other than Evan in and those who generally like to kick him in the nuts in All Cobra Talk...which has nothing to do with his fine CSXR), I would say it has become a collective effort of the usual talking heads in this particular Forum...they all work quite well together in furtherance of that endeaver despite their political differences. If only both sides of the aisle in Congress worked so well together.

Roscoe · #7 (**permalink**) 10-11-2007, 01:09 PM

How bout those Yanks?

wtm442 · #8 (**permalink**) 10-11-2007, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Roscoe

How bout those Yanks?

At least they won one game. Did the great Alex R get his playoff batting average above 0.000 ????

Seasonal MVP and playoff bust.

Go Red Sox!

Ron61 · #9 (**permalink**) 10-11-2007, 02:55 PM

Warren,

Actually I was rooting for the Yanks because I wanted to see the Red Sox/Yankee playoff series. With their history of dislike, I think it would have been a good one. And since I am a St. Louis Cardinal fan, I haven't decided who I want to win the series. Gads, the Cardinals went from World Champs to worst in baseball in one year.

Ron

BeanCounter · #10 (**permalink**) 10-11-2007, 03:25 PM

Well at least it's a good start. We'll see how it goes as it moves forward. Since Islam lacks conspicuous leadership it's hard to tell how it will work out. However if they can counteract the idea that they are the only worthwhile human beings on this planet and that other religions and cultures stand on an even plane with theirs then maybe, just maybe some progress can be made.

imagine2frolic · #11 (**permalink**) 10-11-2007, 03:32 PM

BC, Right there is where it has to happen. To admit that other religions don't deserve to die just because it is a different take on God. Sooner, or later the everyday Muslim needs to step up against the extremist.

J. T. Toad · #12 (**permalink**) 10-11-2007, 03:35 PM

who was it that first popularized this term.... oh yeah, Rodney King. Sigh, the pundit's of our day.

Excaliber · #13 (**permalink**) 10-11-2007, 04:57 PM

As Imagine said, if the Muslims don't 'step up' amongst themselves this letter don't mean squat. I do believe the fundamental problem does not lay with the 'fundamentalists', or even the 'extreme' christian sects. It's the radical Muslims that is the problem, something a 'letter' won't address.

Scott S · #14 (**permalink**) 10-11-2007, 05:35 PM

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The letter was addressed to the Pope, leaders of Orthodox Christian churches, Anglican leader Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams and the heads of the world alliances of the Lutheran, Methodist, Baptist and Reformed churches.

Why were the Jews left out?

This is coalition building nothing more....

I have been reading a book called "In Defense of Israel" I would urge every Christian to get a copy and do the same.

http://indefenseofisrael.org/

Scott S

Jamo · #15 (**permalink**) 10-11-2007, 10:31 PM

Well, Hindus and Buddhists were not included either.

Scott S · #16 (**permalink**) 10-12-2007, 06:49 AM

If they were and the Jews were left out would that be okay?

Scott S

BeanCounter · #17 (**permalink**) 10-12-2007, 06:54 AM

Jamo,

What's your take on the Armenian resolution? I'm familiar with the history of what went on but what is trying to be achieved by it? Recompense? Rub the Turks nose in it? Admission of Guilt? What's the driving force behind it? It seems like it comes at a critical time and as far as I know no one doubts the validity of the claim. History itself tells us that.

Jamo · #18 (**permalink**) 10-12-2007, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by BeanCounter

Jamo,

What's your take on the Armenian resolution? I'm familiar with the history of what went on but what is trying to be achieved by it? Recompense? Rub the Turks nose in it? Admission of Guilt? What's the driving force behind it? It seems like it comes at a critical time and as far as I know no one doubts the validity of the claim. History itself tells us that.

Just some more mindless third world crap to thicken an already overdone soup of regional politics.

Lots of stuff at play. Turkey wants to be part of modern Europe in its future, but is unwilling to come to grips with its past. It's always a "critical time" isn't it? The issue was ignored when we needed an eye on Russia, and now they make it sound like they are needed to keep the region calm...yet they wouldn't permit us to use their airspace to invade Sadaam's hell. They prosecute folks (and allow them to be killed) when they talk about such issues under the mandate that it's "harmful to Turkishness" but talk about how they are an open and free society. They want to attack the phuked up Kurds, the same folks that they hired to do the dirty work on the Armenians.

Armenians are pissed about being forgotten while everyone keeps lamenting the Jews. The world turned its back while it went on. They worry about Armenia being able to survive surrounded by muslim nations. Life under the yolk of the USSR wasn't all that bad...life today in Armenia is benficially described as "historical" (ie., downright medieval). Nobody believes in making geographical or financial claims, but some believe an admission would protect family members who live in Turkey.

Turkey does a huge amount of business with France, the only European nation to officially condemn it for carrying out the genocide, so the strength of Turkey's threats to the U.S. have to be measured somewhat.

Would it be a good thing for Turkey to acknowlege the low points of the Ottoman Empire? I think so...not so much for Armenians, but for Turkey itself so it can move to main table. Did it help Germany to acknowlege what Hitler did, Russia for Stalin, China for Mao, the U.S. for slavery and the treatment of Japanese (while Germans and Italians got a pass), Japan for what it did to the Chinese, Koreans and Philipinos...would South Africa have changed?

Would we have a Darfur or Burma if we maintained some phuking standards around this little blue ball?

For Armenians, it's not so much that Turkey acknowlege what happened...more that Europe and the U.S. acknowlege that they allowed it to happen in that sick phuk dying Ottoman Empire. Europe and the U.S. want to feel good by blaming Turkey...make the former "Sick Man of Europe" the "Straw Man of Europe" so to speak.

Just my take...personally, I'd like to bomb the phuk out of the whole freeking region.

Jamo · #19 (**permalink**) 10-12-2007, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott S

If they were and the Jews were left out would that be okay?

Scott S

Sure...then they could make another movie and raise another monument for being stiffed again.

Seriously...sometimes it's not so much of whom is at the table than that there is a table in the first place.

Fred Douglass · #20 (**permalink**) 10-12-2007, 09:05 PM

Q: What do Rotteny King and AlGore's toss-pot son have in common (other than lacing their bodies with enuff controlled substances to cook a turkey while it's still walking around)?

A: Correct! They both have taken small, fecal, underpowered "sedans" to 145% of their potential speeds.....

Whattabuncha geniusses!

"A" to Toad.........ar-ar-ar-oooooogle!

Carrion