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Old 02-15-2008, 11:33 AM
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Along with the dumba$$ dems, Ron Paul voted against spy bil???.

WASHINGTON — President Bush said Friday that "our country is in more danger of an attack" because of Congress' failure to extend a law that makes it easier for the government to spy on foreign phone calls and e-mails that pass through the United States.
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Old 02-15-2008, 11:43 AM
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Well, according to Steve, he is much more conservative.

BUTT, he really is a libertarian with a red tie, and his vote is in harmony with his belief system. Plus, it will get him headlines and exposure.

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Paul has said repeatedly that the gov't doesn't have the right to intrude in anybody's privacy...period. A part of his Libertarian stance I suppose. I really like his small gov't. ideas until he pops off with one of these.
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Ron Paul was My Man, but by default, out of desperation, I say, John McCain, anything beats Hillary the rat's momma or Ugga Bugga the Muslim.

I see no 'best candidate."

"I'm a'votin' agin' them Demmiecrats and that sow what thinks she owned the White House for eight years.

That be the most expensive rent house we ever owned, bein' taxpayers and all"

"Them Reegans, now, they was good folks. Polite and progressive and all that."

"They listened to me and knowed where I was coming from, I liked that."

"Where is them Reegans, now?"

I'm sorry, we don't have a Reegan.

God help us. Just me, an Okie, in one of those little "flyover" states.

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For me i have had it with the way it is!!! Clintons had 12 years to fix things, McCain has been in office how many years and nothing accomplished on all the thing's us normal slobs want fixed. I'm a fiscal conservative who believe's in abortion and governemnt out of my bedroom etc.
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We got eleven months, and Mc's gonna have an intense re-education in conservatism.
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As I think I've mentioned before, Ron Paul is one goofy mofo.

He thinks we got out of Korea.
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As I think I've mentioned before, Ron Paul is one goofy mofo.

He thinks we got out of Korea.
Well, I've done some detailed meatific analysis, and have come to the conclusion that Ron Paul is Marshall Applewhite, the leader formerly known as Do (not to be confused with Homer Simpson's "d'oh!") of the Heavens Gate Cult.



But ... when you get right down to it, there are similarities (around the 'crazy eyes') between Marshall and a certain chick candidate, too:















































Oh yeah, and don't forget the similarities between these two, either:



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All right by God! That's ENOUGH of the Hillary pictures...I gotta sleep tonight ya know!
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I liked Ron Paul at first, especially his record on taxes and congressional pay raises - but the more I learned the more he looked like an idiot... anyway, bein' from arkansas I have to pull for Huck as much as I can - but we all know what a chance he has. We just got to get Mac off the fence (and on the RIGHT (not left) side of it) and hope Billary has a heart attack or something. I don't even want to comment on bugga bomma...
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101 Reasons to support Ron Paul

1. He Supports the Constitution. (Wow Go Figure!)
2. He Believes In Religious Freedom.
3. He Has Never Voted For A Tax Increase.
4. He Is Against Federal Funding Of laziness.
5. He Is Against Funding Stupidity Abroad.
6. He Is Against The National I.D. or Real I.D. Act.
7. He Believes In The "Just War Theory".
8. He Supports The Rights Of Private Property Owners.
9. He Wants Us Out Of The U.N.
10. He Wants Us To Trade With Nations And Not War With Them.
11. He Is For 2nd Amendment Rights.
12. He Opposes NAIS.
13. He Wants To Shrink The Federal Government, Not Expand It.
14. He Has No Plans To Start A War With Iran Or Anyone Else.
15. He Wants To Bring Our Troops Home.
16. He Does Not Belong To The CFR (Council On Foreign Relations).
17. He Has Not Received Campaign Contributions from Rupert Murdoch (Like Hillary).
18. His Running Mate Most Likely Will Not Have Shot Anyone In The Face.
19. He Wants To End The I.R.S..
20. He Wants To Cut Spending?? Really, Cut Spending.
21. He Is Against Eminent Domain.
22. He Is Against The NAFTA Superhighway.
23. He Is Against The North American Union Or SPP (It Exists Google It).
24. He Is For The Principle Of Sound Money.
25. He Is Against The Idea of The Amero (Google It).
26. He Is Against The Federal Reserve's Monopoly On Monetary Regulation.
27. He Is Philosophically Opposed To Big Government.
28. He Voted Against The Misnamed Patriot Act That Stripped Us Of Our Rights.
29. He Is For The Bill Of Rights.
30. He Knows The Meaning Of Liberty.
31. He Was 1 Of 4 People That Supported Reagan Early On.
32. He Has Been Married For 50 Years, Which Is An Achievement These Days.
33. He Is Not Married To Hillary.
34. His Supporters Love Him.
35. He Is A Once In A Lifetime Candidate.
36. Because His Record Is Consistent.
37. He Is Against Funding The So-Called War On Drugs (Another Unsuccessful War).
38. He Is Actually Against Funding Many Unsuccessful Federal Programs.
39. He Does Not Want To Ruin Healthcare By Nationalizing It, (LikeHillary, Obama, et al.)
40. He Is A Student Of History.
41. He Votes In Accordance With The Constitution.
42. He Will Not Forcibly Implant Us Or Our Troops With Microchips Or Like Devices (It's For Your Safety, Of Course).
43. He Is The Only Conservative, In The Traditional Sense, Left.
44. Republicans Love Him Because He Is For Small Government.
45. Democrats Love Him Because He Will End The War For Oil.
46. Libertarians Love Him Because He Wants The Government Out Of Their Business.
47. He Is The Only Electable Republican Candidate.
48. He is Against The Creation Of A Surveillance Society (See London).
49. He Supports Homeschool Rights.
50. He Wants To End The Corporate Welfare System That Is Destroying Our Government's Credibility.
51. He Tells It Like It Is. He Is Truthful.
52. He Reads.
53. As A Doctor, He Is Informed On The Healthcare Issue.
54. He Has Not Been Hannitized.
55. He Has The Courage To Speak Out Against What Is Wrong.
56. He Will Be Good For The Economy (Freedom Generally Is Good For The Economy).
57. He Wants Us Out Of The WTO And Like Organizations.
58. The I.R.S. Is Scared Of This Guy.
59. He Is Smart Enough To Prefer Gold Over Paper.
60. He Knows The Term FIAT-CURRENCY and knows what it means.
61. He Wants To Secure Our Borders.
62. He Favors Guarding Our Country Over Policing The World.
63. He Opposed The War In Iraq From The Beginning.
64. He Authorized The Hunt For Osama Bin Laden.
65. He Believes Local Governments Are Better Suited To Handle Their Own Issues.
66. He Is Willing To Listen And Reason With Others.
67. He Is A Christian Who Believes Christ Was Right When He Said, "Blessed Are The Peacemakers".
68. He Has Never Voted For An Unbalanced Budget.
69. He Has Never Voted For A Federal Restriction On Gun Ownership.
70. He Has Never Voted To Raise Congressional Pay.
71. He Has Never Taken A Government-Paid Junket.
72. He Has Never Voted To Increase The Power Of The Executive Branch.
73. He Voted Against Regulating The Internet.
74. He Does Not Participate In The Lucrative Congressional Pension Program.
75. He Returns A Portion Of His Annual Congressional Office Budget To The U.S. Treasury Every Year.
76. He Is Against Selective Service Registration.
77. He Is Against A Mandatory Draft.
78. He Is Still Not Married To Hillary.
79. He Has The Support Of The Youth.
80. His Campaign Has People Across The Country Motivated.
81. His Supporters Are Enthusiastic.
82. He Is Educated.
83. He Wants To Apply The Golden Rule In Government (How Radical).
84. He Believes in Freedom Of Speech.
85. He Believes In Individual Rights
86. He Believes Those Rights Come From Our Creator.
87. He Does Not "Move With The Herd".
88. He Has Delivered Over 4,000 Babies And Values Life.
89. He Doesn't Have To "Act The Part" Because He Is What He Is.
90. He Has Not Waffled On The Abortion Issue As Every Other Republican Candidate.
91. He Has Faced Tremendous Opposition With Dignity.
92. He Is Optimistic
93. He Values The Traditions That Have Kept Us Free.
94. He Understands That Monopolies Are Bad Things.
95. He Understands The Difference Between Individual And Government Responsibility.
96. He Understands Inflation Is Not Just the Prices Going Up, But Rather The Value Of Money Going down.
97. You Will Feel Good About Your Vote For A Change.
98. You Will Know You Have Done The Right Thing.
99. For The First Time In A Long Time, You Will Not Be Voting "For The Least Worst".
100. You Will Help Undo The Damage Done To Our Country Over The Last Several Decades.
101. He Is Our Last Hope For A Free Nation.
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There is absolutely NO reason whatsoever to vote for Ron Paul.

And America knows it; out of 1,349 possible delegates, Paul has 16.

Sixteen.

Maybe if he'd run as what he REALLY is, then I'd have much more respect for him (which would have raised the amount to zero respect). But he chose to run on a Republican ticket, which is a flat-out lie; he's not a Republican.

Neither is McCain.

I can only hope that we can force Newt into the race at the RNC.

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You're right, he isn't what Republicans are, but he is what they were. And you're right, most amerikans are so fuqqin socialist, they would have fought for the British in 1776.
Ron Paul isn't perfect, but he's a lot better than than the other three, who are all on the same team, the CFR... Don't know what that is???

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Honestly, I would have thought that CC, where people drive cars without airbags, that fly in the face of government regulations, would have been a bastion of libertarianism, but, I can see that the 'nuke the sand nigerians til they glow for your own safety' bull$hit (whereby the banks that fund the arms dealers, and the governments that steal liberty in the name of safety both win) has even taken hold here. It's all right there guys and gals. SB100 and car title problems just scratches the surface. Bend over.
But, you're right. Only 16 delegates get it.
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Honestly, I would have thought that CC, where people drive cars without airbags, that fly in the face of government regulations, would have been a bastion of libertarianism...
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And so it is, but to many a varying degree. Most Alphas set there own course with a fierce streak of independence so it gets hard to form a group statement on just about anything or anyone. I like Paul, but I also believe he has zero chance of governing if he were elected. As the libertarians figured out long ago...local elections first, Congress second, White House last.
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I put links for support and clarification, not to throw out "enough crap and throw a bunch of crap out there, link to Youtube, and then attack anyone who disagrees with them. About like their candidate."

You mean like, "As I think I've mentioned before, Ron Paul is one goofy mofo."?

Regarding his platform, about what do you disagree, and why?

Because, "He thinks we got out of Korea"?- Jamo

No, but he thinks we should get out of Korea. (That "war" ended 50 years ago). He thinks those soldiers should defend our borders not S. Korea's. I agree. Don't you?

BTW, I agree that he'd have a hard time governing, absent the people holding their Reps. accountable and holding their feet to the fire, or, if he could just clone himself 535 times. Too much graft. If it were only about who gets the new roads, (Republican districts in Republican governments, or Democrats for Democrats) I wouldn't be active, as I haven't been since 1968, when I mistakenly believed that Nixon would undo what Johnson did. (War on Poverty- (i.e. worsening of Welfare Nation), Vietnam (Nixon killed 30,000 more to "withdraw with honor"), etc.

So, back to the facts (not the fact that he is shrill and you don't care for his supporters (my) style), if you know his issues and platform, about what part do you disagree?
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Sorry Doc (CSX 4039), I deleted my post well before you responded. You must have been thinking real hard on it. I hate it when folks delete posts after someone responds...but thinking about it for several minutes, I came to the realization I would be arguing with a died in the wool, genuine Ron Paul supporter and probably be drawn in to a discussion of whatever constitutes the goofy mofo' "platform."

And then I thought of the new magazine I still had to read...in the rack next to the toilet, and I just weighed the choices I had for spending the next hour or so...

...I feel light and airy now.

See, it's not his platform or what he says in most instances...he's just a goofy mofo. I don't vote for goofy mofos...never have.

BTW...the Korea comment came straight from the last debate where he was talking about how a Republican got us out of Korea. I guess I listen to the goofy mofo mo betta than you do.
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Okay, fair enough. Actually, I was syncing my daugthers iPod.

But, I can't figure you out....
Being an attorney on the left coast, who defends labor unions, if you vote your demographics, that would put you well to the left of Jimmy Hoffa and Eleanor Roosevelt's love child.

But, the Morton Downey, Jr. aspects of you suggests otherwise.

So, ball's in your court. if you choose to vote for one of the three-
Juan McCain, Barack Bin Laden, or Hillary (vote for change?!?!) Clinton, for whom would you vote?

And, if you could have anyone be POTUS, who would you choose? (Serious choice- not REAL 1, Brent, or casaleenie).

No debate from me... I'm just trying to figure you out.
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