...from a Brit observer regarding the election....

[392cobra]

At least someone sees this con for what he is.

...from a Brit observer regarding the election....
'You have to pinch yourself - a Marxist radical who all his life has been mentored by, sat at the feet of, worshiped with, befriended, endorsed the philosophy of, funded and been in turn funded, politically promoted and supported by a nexus comprising black power anti-white racists, Jew-haters, revolutionary Marxists, unrepentant former terrorists and Chicago mobsters, is on the verge of becoming President of the United States. And apparently it's considered impolite to say so.'
Melanie Philips, The Spectator ( UK ) 10/14/08

[clayfoushee]

It's good to see the U.S. doesn't have an exclusive on hysterical morons.

[Excaliber]

392, eh eh, that was funny, I'm still chuckling over it.

[392cobra]

Originally Posted by Excaliber

392, eh eh, that was funny, I'm still chuckling over it.

The "takers" are laughing (for now) and the "givers" aren't.

[VRM]

Originally Posted by 392cobra

The "takers" are laughing (for now) and the "givers" aren't.

Pretty much all of the people that would be getting a tax credit under Obama are either homeowners or workers (usually both). And those working class stiffs have not been laughing for the last few years. Welcome to the club.

So you have a problem with working class stiffs keeping more of their money? The wealthy got to keep more of theirs for the last few years, but it didn't trickle down. This sort of thing can (and has) caused revolutions - be glad (so far) that in this country it is with ballots instead of guns.

[bomelia]

ain't nobody getting a tax break (unless you count the folks who pay nothing at all).

[VRM]

Originally Posted by bomelia

ain't nobody getting a tax break (unless you count the folks who pay nothing at all).

Wrong Mike,
I will pay less in taxes ('course it all contingent on what Congress actually does) under Obama than under McCain.

[bomelia]

Thats what I am saying! Nobody is going to pay less taxes.

Mike

[VRM]

Originally Posted by bomelia

Thats what I am saying! Nobody is going to pay less taxes.

Mike

Alright - that was actually funny!

And I tend to get confused with 'aint nobody' anyways.

[turnpike boy]

Originally Posted by bomelia

ain't nobody getting a tax break (unless you count the folks who pay nothing at all).

Aw, sure we will, Mike. The Chicago Politician has said you will - all of us making less than $250,000 / $200,000 / $150,000 / ? (pick one) will assolutley get one.

Why would we doubt him?

Actually, I suspect I'll be paying less taxes under an Obama administration since it looks like most of the work is gonna dry up anyway. Less income = less taxes.

You don't suppose that's really what he's been saying all along, do you?


-Roger

[392cobra]

That Clay,Ernie & Steve disagree with the first post on this thread reaffirms my belief in what I posted.

Thanks for the help.

[GlynMeek]

ROFL...as a 'former Brit', let me just give some perspective that "The Spectator" has always been regarded as a "right wing rag"!!!! Now, to make sure that the "English news" gets a balanced treatment, here is another 'political quote' from a British Newspaper that was made just after the VP debate..."The Guardian" is equally renowned as a "left wing rag"!!!! Just like here in the US, each side can take some pretty fun knocks at the other side.... I TRULY do NOT want to open the Democrat/Republican debate again which has ranged on this forum far and wide, I just merely want to show how much interest and bias is shown over there, as well as over here!

Extremists are always somewhat apt to resort to hyperbole, no matter on which side of the pond they dwell, BUT you have to admire ANY writer who can so casually and gracefully slip in such WONDERFUL words as "platitudes", "appalling", "venerate", "urbane" and "quotidian"...

Sarah Palin's farcical debate performance lowered the standards for both female candidates and US political discourse

Michelle Goldberg Friday
October 3, 2008 guardian.co.uk http://guardian.co.uk/

At least three times last night, Sarah Palin, the adorable, preposterous vice-presidential candidate, winked at the audience. Had a male candidate with a similar reputation for attractive vapidity made such a brazen attempt to flirt his way into the good graces of the voting public, it would have universally noted, discussed and mocked. Palin, however, has single-handedly so lowered the standards both for female candidates and American political discourse that, with her newfound ability to speak in more-or-less full sentences, she is now deemed to have performed acceptably last night.

By any normal standard, including the ones applied to male presidential candidates of either party, she did not. Early on, she made the astonishing announcement that she had no intentions of actually answering the queries put to her. "I may not answer the questions that either the moderator or you want to hear, but I'm going to talk straight to the American people and let them know my track record also," she said.

And so she preceded, with an almost surreal disregard for the subjects she was supposed to be discussing, to unleash fusillades of scripted attack lines, platitudes, lies, gibberish and grating references to her own pseudo-folksy authenticity.

It was an appalling display. The only reason it was not widely described as such is that too many American pundits don't even try to judge the truth, wisdom or reasonableness of the political rhetoric they are paid to pronounce upon. Instead, they imagine themselves as interpreters of a mythical mass of "average Americans" who they both venerate and despise.

In pronouncing upon a debate, they don't try and determine whether a candidate's responses correspond to existing reality, or whether he or she is capable of talking about subjects such as the deregulation of the financial markets or the devolution of the war in Afghanistan. The criteria are far more vaporous. In this case, it was whether Palin could avoid utterly humiliating herself for 90 minutes, and whether urbane commentators would believe that she had connected to a public that they see as ignorant and sentimental. For the Alaska governor, mission accomplished.

There is indeed something mesmerising about Palin, with her manic beaming and fulsome confidence in her own charm. The force of her personality managed to slightly obscure the insulting emptiness of her answers last night. It's worth reading the transcript of the encounter, where it becomes clearer how bizarre much of what she said was. Here, for example, is how she responded to Biden's comments about how the middle class has been short-changed during the Bush administration, and how McCain will continue Bush's policies:

“Say it ain't so, Joe, there you go again pointing backwards again. You preferenced [sic] your whole comment with the Bush administration. Now doggone it, let's look ahead and tell Americans what we have to plan to do for them in the future. You mentioned education, and I'm glad you did. I know education you are passionate about with your wife being a teacher for 30 years, and god bless her. Her reward is in heaven, right? ... My brother, who I think is the best schoolteacher in the year, and here's a shout-out to all those third graders at Gladys Wood Elementary School, you get extra credit for watching the debate.”

Evidently, Palin's pre-debate handlers judged her incapable of speaking on a fairly wide range of subjects, and so instructed to her to simply disregard questions that did not invite memorised talking points or cutesy filibustering. They probably told her to play up her spunky average-ness, which she did to the point of shtick - and dishonesty. Asked what her achilles heel is - a question she either didn't understand or chose to ignore - she started in on how McCain chose her because of her "connection to the heartland of America. Being a mom, one very concerned about a son in the war, about a special needs child, about kids heading off to college, how are we going to pay those tuition bills?"

None of Palin's children, it should be noted, are heading off to college. Her son is on the way to Iraq, and her pregnant 17-year-old daughter is engaged to be married to a high-school dropout and self-described "****in' redneck". Palin is a woman who can't even tell the truth about the most quotidian and public details of her own life, never mind about matters of major public import. In her only vice-presidential debate, she was shallow, mendacious and phoney. What kind of maverick, after all, keeps harping on what a maverick she is? That her performance was considered anything but a farce doesn't show how high Palin has risen, but how low we all have sunk.

[FWB]

hey thanks for the copy and paste that no one will read...


cause its too long for a thread in a freakin forum.


i got bored after the first three sentences......yawn another article, i am sure
fair and non biased from some hack writing dribble, oh wait a brit commenting
on a u.s. election.....hahahahahah! god save the queen!!!

[Excaliber]

392Cobra, I didn't say I disagreed, what makes it funny is the twisted element of truth.

Stretched beyond the point of being believable, but enough truth there to make it funny. Those Brit's crack me up.

FWB, your right on target with your post! Man these long cut and pastes are a thread killer!