Watkins Glen

fsstnotch · #1 (**permalink**) 08-11-2009, 07:38 AM

Pretty good race! That wreck between Hornish jr, Gordon, and Burton was nasty!!!

Ron61 · #2 (**permalink**) 08-11-2009, 08:02 AM

I just got to see the first 10 laps and the last 28 due to being at the doctors all morning. I did see the wreck and it was a pretty hard hit for some of the drivers. Jeff Gordon said he was sure happy that they race at Michigan next weekend as he wasn't sure how his back would take the banging and strain of a short track race which is weekend after next. NASCAR needs more of this type racing if they want to ever recover from the high speed parades and long yellow flag cautions to get in the commercials.

Ron

fsstnotch · #3 (**permalink**) 08-11-2009, 09:28 AM

I agree, the race was INTERESTING! Not 100 laps of caution and 100 laps of poor quality racing. Ya, ol Jeff is hurting! he hit Hornish and the wall both very hard. Jeff has by far the hardest wreck I've ever seen last season or the one before in Vegas. The one where he hit the opening on the inside with no safer barrier. I was surprised to see him walk away from that one.

Bill Bess · #4 (**permalink**) 08-12-2009, 07:07 AM

We complain about the new stock cars being boring to watch because they're all the same, but for sure they are very safe.
I'm amazed how they come out OK after these terrible wrecks.
Bill

Ron61 · #5 (**permalink**) 08-12-2009, 08:23 AM

Bill,

Safety is their one redeeming factor. And they are not even close to stock in any way. They are wider than a standard car, the driver sets more toward the center, and they have nothing on them that any manufacturer maes except maybe a few engine parts and they buy those and assemble them. I like the foam in the outside a lot as it sure keeps the body straight when they just scrape the wall and no parts come flying off like tho older cars they designed did.

Ron

Joe Wicked · #6 (**permalink**) 08-12-2009, 09:06 AM

I don't mind the car being a non-stock car as the safety needs mandate a lot of stuff that will not be on a stock car. I also like the new car looks more like a real car in the fact it is symmetrical looking not having the left fender pulled all out. I do wish they would redesign it a bit more though to get rid of the splitter and make the nose more like what is on the streets. Plus, stop mandating the wing, springs, etc... Give a choice of style/specs and allow teams to actually innovate. If one team can do more, then they lead the pack. I understand the whole who has more money wins thing, but there are other ways of controlling that. Set a team limit size to 2 for example.

Wayne Maybury · #7 (**permalink**) 08-12-2009, 09:38 AM

I don't like the look of the "ricer" wing on the trunk.

While I haven't looked at the NASCAR rule book, from what I understand the teams have virtually no room to innovate. Virtually every part on those cars is controlled by NASCAR. I would much prefer to see rules only set to govern safety factors as well as max displacement, min weight, height, width, length, aero standards, etc and let the teams find the winning combination.

Wayne

Joe Wicked · #8 (**permalink**) 08-12-2009, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayne Maybury

I don't like the look of the "ricer" wing on the trunk.

While I haven't looked at the NASCAR rule book, from what I understand the teams have virtually no room to innovate. Virtually every part on those cars is controlled by NASCAR. I would much prefer to see rules only set to govern safety factors as well as max displacement, min weight, height, width, length, aero standards, etc and let the teams find the winning combination.

Wayne

Exactly. I think we would have much better racing.