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fsstnotch 08-19-2009 12:10 PM

TDi Jetta REsets the mpg world record
 
The couple that previously set the Guiness book record in a 2009 TDi Jetta at 58.82mpg were contacted by goodyear. Goodyear claimed they would have gotten better mpg if they had used Goodyear tires... SO, on Goodyears dime, they tested again. On a 9505mi road trip, all highway, within 5mph of the speedlimit. And the new world record is......

67 MPG!!!!!

Add to the great fuel economy the fact that VW is currently offering 3yr 36k FREE service package. You won't even pay to have the oil changed!

No expensive batteries to replace, no brand new technology to battle, getting better mpg in the city that the Fit... Price $26k fully loaded. Base price $21k

Excaliber 08-19-2009 12:21 PM

...and it does 0-60 mph sometime before the next full lunar eclipse is scheduled. :)

Impressive mpg.

jams 08-19-2009 01:07 PM

That is impressive.

I think too much time, effort and expense is being put into hybrid technology. Look at the results, hybrids get their butts kicked by a regular engine.

fsstnotch 08-19-2009 01:28 PM

Quote from motortrend...
Quote:

The popularity comes for good reason as the TDI scoots from 0 to 60 in 8.4 seconds....
Our Car
Base Price $23,090
Price as tested $24,190
Vehicle layout Front engine, FWD, 5-pass, 4-door sedan
Engine 2.0L/140-hp/236-lb-ft turbodiesel SOHC 16-valve I-4
Transmission 6-speed dual-clutch automatic
Curb weight (dist f/r) 3346 lb (61/39%)
Wheelbase 101.5 in
Length x width x height 179.3 x 70.1 x 57.4 in
0-60 mph 8.4 sec
Quarter mile 16.4 sec @ 83.6 mph
Braking, 60-0 mph 125 ft
Lateral acceleration 0.82 g (avg)
MT figure eight 28.2 sec @ 0.58 g (avg)
Prius 10.37
Fit 9.00

Beats both of the above in a 1/4 mile by 2 seconds. Comparable to your everyday gas powered civic.

Mine was $25k with leather, moonroof, heated seats, mp3, 17" wheels, arctic white with charcoal leather.

jams 08-19-2009 03:23 PM

Those numbers are hard to argue with!

Excaliber 08-19-2009 04:36 PM

8.4 to 60 mph, while not burning up the highway is a lot faster than I thought it would be!

Interesting numbers indeed...

SP01715 08-19-2009 04:50 PM

I ordered a 2010 TDI Jetta wagon last week. Should be here in 2-4 months. I drove the 09 version and it actually moves out pretty well with the torque of the turbo diesel. It has a sport mode that you can put it in that changes the shift points for even better acceleration.:cool:

map 08-19-2009 07:33 PM

Ford Focus 1.6 TDCI Diesel 58.9 mpg

http://www.stevelarkins.freeuk.com/f...dci_review.htm

fsstnotch 08-19-2009 10:07 PM

Ya, I was pretty surprised by the acceleration. It's got 236ft-lbs tq and it will spin the tires off the line if you try.

You will love the wagon. I know a few people on the TDi forums that switched from the smaller economy cars and they were amazed to find themselves getting better mpg than thier old cars and have WAY more space.

This Small engine turbo diesel is a good answer right now.... imagine a hybrid in the future!

Ron61 08-20-2009 04:57 AM

That is an impressive set of figures and the acceleration does surprise me. I see a new Jetta around here every day or so and if I happen to see it parked I am going to ask the owner how he likes it and what his mileage figures are. I doubt if they will quite equal those, but if the Good Year tires help that much, they would be a worthy option.

Ron :)

Maurice Johnson 08-20-2009 05:32 AM

"say it ain't so"

In the vein of the kid, to ShoelessJoe Jackson, Cobra freaks (me too) extolling the virtues of --uhhhh--you know, those other velocipedes. :CRY:

fsstnotch 08-20-2009 05:58 AM

Ron, I think my best has been 55mpg in traffic so I couldn't speed. I regularly get 49-50 highway. I usually drive 10mph over the limit. I average 40mpg regularly everyday driving.

Both of my figures are well over the EPA.

Also, i don't know if you have seen the test online of these new clean diesels. They took a coffee filter and covered the tailpipe of one of these jettasThey ran the car for a few minutes and revved it up and stuff... filter was completely clean. Pretty neat. Not what you would expect from a diesel.

http://green.autoblog.com/2009/05/04...e-filter-test/

Ron61 08-20-2009 07:04 AM

That was an interesting article and so were many of the comments made at the end of it. At this point in time, the hybrids are not going to work well up here in the mountains and that 40 miles per charge on a battery which is under ideal conditions is not gong to do well, especially when people start charging them every 30 minutes. We have had rolling brown outs the past 3 years due to lack of electric power, so what happens when they get a lot of those things on the road? I would love to see a replacement for the gasoline engines, but I don't like what I see about the hybrids. If the only driving was in city traffic, then maybe they would work with those expensive batteries but they would still require being recharged every day at least once.

Ron

fsstnotch 08-20-2009 08:15 AM

Ron, that was exactly my problem. Where I live, it's 10 miles to anything. Add to that the fact that any of the roads that lead to anything are continuous 55-65mph. There is no stopping. So no hybrid would work well for me. Alot of those guys that responded to the article blasting the diesel, base their opinions much like Ernie did, on the past. It's no fault of their own, for most, you get an impression on somehting and that's how you feel until you experience otherwise. They are also basing their facts based on EPA ratings. I can assure you, the EPA ratings on the TDi are extremely low.

Dan40 08-20-2009 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maurice Johnson (Post 976072)
"say it ain't so"

In the vein of the kid, to ShoelessJoe Jackson, Cobra freaks (me too) extolling the virtues of --uhhhh--you know, those other velocipedes. :CRY:


Well ya gotta have a rainy day car, dontcha?

427sharpe 08-20-2009 11:08 AM

I don't know why everybody jumps up and down about 'new' fuel saving cars. Honda had them 20 years ago; no diesel, no turbo.

http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/noframes/5263.shtml

50 Hwy/ 41 city for a combined 45 MPG and the cars were FUN.

In light of our current situation, I think we will go the way of Europe. Last time over, it seemed EVERYTHING new was diesel.
Now if we can get the fuel mfg's. to bring diesel down in $ to where it should logically be....%/

DAVID GAGNARD 08-20-2009 11:16 AM

A while back while talking to a lady about her daughter's Honda hybrid, I asked how she liked the car. She said it was fantastic and the bestest thing ever....She was very proud of the fact that her daughter had just drove home my college (4.5 hour drive) and had averaged a whopping 34 mpg..........

I get 38 to 39.5 mpg on the highway and never less than 35 mpg overall in my 11 year old Corolla!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

David

Wayne Maybury 08-20-2009 12:22 PM

My daughter has had a TDI for several years and it now has almost 300,000 km (175,000 miles) on it. The only problem has been the rear brakes that just do not seem to last very long. The timing belt has been changed twice and she just had to have the head gasket replaced. Other than that, it has been a great car that continues to give very good mileage.

Wayne

SP01715 08-20-2009 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fsstnotch (Post 976015)
Ya, I was pretty surprised by the acceleration. It's got 236ft-lbs tq and it will spin the tires off the line if you try.

You will love the wagon. I know a few people on the TDi forums that switched from the smaller economy cars and they were amazed to find themselves getting better mpg than thier old cars and have WAY more space.

This Small engine turbo diesel is a good answer right now.... imagine a hybrid in the future!

I have owned diesel trucks for ten years, and I wanted a diesel for my wifes new car because we put about 20k miles a year on it. After all the research it came down to the VW and the Audi wagon (we need the extra room). The Audi is 10" shorter than the VW, so the VW was the choice for me. I am surprised more car companies are not going the diesel route. They are popular in europe, but not so much here in the U.S. :cool:

427sharpe 08-20-2009 02:19 PM

But why buy a diesel? Fuel is ridiculous (priced same as or higher than gas for far less refining), comparative parts are generally higher and the 'home mechanic' is unfamiliar with their operation. Add in that diesel can be hard to find in some places, and you have a problem. I like diesels for the very reasons you list, but it will take a tidal wave to get people to switch.


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