House Votes to FULLY defund Acorn!

[Jamo]

God willing/praise Allah

[427sharpe]

Soros will just fund another group of a-holes in time for the election cycle and get his $ back on the other side. I would really like to know what took so long. ACORN had been successfully sued in 31 states, and is wrapped up in a number of proceedings now over registering non-existent voters, as well as foolishness such as this.

[bomelia]

This whole sad story is another GREAT example of why government should not be involved in health care. QED.

[VRM]

Originally Posted by bomelia

This whole sad story is another GREAT example of why government should not be involved in health care. QED.

Government, business, individuals - basically people suck. The dishonest and lazy get ahead while the rest of us take up their slack.

There are plenty of conservative types who also take advantage, defraud, lie, cheat, steal, and so on, so why do you and others only complain when the DNC types do it?

And why get all Constitutional now - we have managed to ignore it for the last few years...

Steve

[392cobra]

Originally Posted by VRM

There are plenty of onservative types who also take advantage, defraud, lie, cheat, steal, and so on, so why do you and others only complain when the DNC types do it?

Steve

Wow,with Liberals having friends like this they don't need Conservatives pointing out their legal problems.



Minorities Can't Help Being Criminals????


If Joe Wilson or Sarah Palin had said, "The reason ACORN can't help being involved with tax evasion, immigration fraud, and facilitating child prostitution is because most of its employees are poor minorities," liberal heads would be exploding from coast to coast?

National Public Radio, the state-run media outlet that uses taxpayer money to finance propaganda for the left wing, has an explanation for the bad behavior of ACORN employees: Poor people from the inner cities are just naturally inclined toward criminal behavior.
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/...tives_bat.html

"It's also important to keep in mind that ACORN's workers are coming from the same low-income neighborhoods the organization serves, with all that entails -- poor schools, high crime and the sorts of social problems that have been documented for decades.

So the flaws conservatives are pointing out about ACORN are not so much problems associated with that organization per se but more about the problems of being poor and minority in urban America."

So they are saying - Minorities Can't Help Being Criminals.

[Jamo]

Steve...we're talking about ACORN, you know...the group that helped Democrats get elected because they were going to CHANGE things.

Let's stay on subject folks...this a Democrat-ACORN bashing thread, and rightfully so.

[Excaliber]

Alien Fred, interesting analysis, can't say I disagree with it. What to do about it will be like trying to nail jello to the wall. Ignore it and it oozes all over the place, try to clean it up and it makes an even bigger mess. All but impossible to legislate your way out of it, there will ALWAYS be loop holes or a$$holes getting around it.

I guess the best we can do is put out one fire at time. Cost/benefit analysis? No doubt there are some folks that really need and appreciate the kind of help ACORN provided. Enough to make such programs worth while? Hmmm, maybe not. One thing for sure, ACORN's gotta go, THAT idea didn't work! The shame of it all is that hand writing has BEEN on the wall for a LONG time, WHY wasn't action taken sooner? Thats the pisser.

[Jamo]

It's easy, Ernie, and it doesn't require a legislative fix (I know "pass a law" is part of the Democrat's Handbook, but bear with me). The folks who ran ACORN could simply do what every other employer is expected to do...do background checks and hire honest ethical people. Obviously, that requires the leadership to be honest and ethical. The Board of Directors is supposed to be overseeing the leadership. I was on the Board of Directors for a non-profit credit counseling service for years...it's not that difficult to do the right thing.

This kind of crap always seems to befall the social worker organizations. We had one here in Fresno where two sisters were convicted of fraud while receiving grant money from the county, state and federal governments.

[Excaliber]

Eh eh, man that solution sounds WAY to easy.

It's elegant!

[map]

Like trying to kill a room full of roaches with a Sledgehammer!

[bomelia]

Acorn. RIP. Thankfully.

[Joe Wicked]

I see NPR has taken down the article. Just delete it, now it never happened. Way to go NPR.

[joeg2]

It's amazing those 6or 7 reps voted to not defund Acorn! you think they might get some support from Acorn and be worried about getting re elected?
joeg

[392cobra]

STEPHANOPOULOS: How about the funding for ACORN?

OBAMA: You know, if -- frankly, it's not really something I've followed closely. I didn't even know that ACORN was getting a whole lot of federal money.


http://blogs.abcnews.com/george/2009...d-closely.html

[Jamo]

New thread was merged/moved here. No need to start a new thread re ACORN.

[bomelia]

Originally Posted by Jamo

... Obviously, that requires the leadership to be honest and ethical. The Board of Directors is supposed to be overseeing the leadership. I was on the Board of Directors for a non-profit credit counseling service for years...it's not that difficult to do the right thing.

BUT, the BODs ends up populated with folks that get paid big bucks. Rocking the boat aint fun (or put up with). And conflict of interest, do I need to mention that?

[Jamo]

Originally Posted by bomelia

BUT, the BODs ends up populated with folks that get paid big bucks. Rocking the boat aint fun (or put up with). And conflict of interest, do I need to mention that?

No...that is the point.

[J. T. Toad]

A proud judicial moment fer sher. I wonder what they'll get from emotional duress. They were just doing what they were told to do.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...d-probe-acorn/

"But ACORN says no tax returns were actually prepared at the Baltimore office, and that the audio portion of the video recorded there was obtained illegally, since Maryland requires two-party consent for sound recordings. The multimillion-dollar lawsuit cites "extreme emotional distress" on behalf of two workers who were fired after the video was posted online.

The videos were "clear violations of Maryland law that were intended to inflict maximum damage to the reputation of ACORN, the nation's largest grassroots organizer of low-income and minority Americans," said ACORN attorney Arthur Schwartz. "Unfortunately they succeeded.""

[Excaliber]

Based on Maryland law ACORN might well have a solid case! Now THAT is a pathetic outcome. They stand to make money from this? Whoa, the irony of that.

[Dan40]

Originally Posted by J. T. Toad

A proud judicial moment fer sher. I wonder what they'll get from emotional duress. They were just doing what they were told to do.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...d-probe-acorn/

"But ACORN says no tax returns were actually prepared at the Baltimore office, and that the audio portion of the video recorded there was obtained illegally, since Maryland requires two-party consent for sound recordings. The multimillion-dollar lawsuit cites "extreme emotional distress" on behalf of two workers who were fired after the video was posted online.

The videos were "clear violations of Maryland law that were intended to inflict maximum damage to the reputation of ACORN, the nation's largest grassroots organizer of low-income and minority Americans," said ACORN attorney Arthur Schwartz. "Unfortunately they succeeded.""

I will rely on the legal minds on this site. But in a lawsuit, isn't there a discovery process similar to a criminal case? And how much would the plaintiff have to reveal in discovery?