Senate committee rejects 'public option' amendment

[cobra de capell]

Senate committee rejects 'public option' amendment

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/sen...-09-29-1455410
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This puts the senate on a collision course with the house, where the liberal wing has said they will NOT vote for a plan without a public option. Of course the public option isn't dead yet, it still could be put back in during the reconciliation of the house and senate bills. But, by this vote, it looks like a bill with a public option will be DOA in the senate.

[Excaliber]

It aint over yet, the fat lady hasn't even warmed up.

I would like to see a public option, myself, carefully written. Maybe we'll get there yet.

[cobra bill]

Without it, the price we the tax payers will be paying to insure the ones the insurance companies didn't cherry pick, will be extremely expensive, whatever happened to the fiscal conservatives? why is it just the nut bags that are left.

[cobra de capell]

why is it just the nut bags that are left.

The most truthful statement that you've even posted, lefty.

[cobra de capell]

Originally Posted by Excaliber

It aint over yet, the fat lady hasn't even warmed up.

I would like to see a public option, myself, carefully written. Maybe we'll get there yet.

"carefully written", as always - you funny exc.

[Excaliber]

Well to say any of the bills to date are carefully written would be a stretch. I remain optomistic!

[cobra de capell]

Optimistic? Given the evidence since Obama was elected? You are truly a liberal

[computerworks]

You all seem to have decided that the topic is no longer the discussion...
...and now you are simply fascinated with each other.

Nice...I mean, all of you getting along and stuff....

[Excaliber]

Group hug?

Nah, I'll pass on going that far...

By the way, in spite of all this mornings activity here on CC I've:
Installed my new flywheel and re-assembled the trans with new synchro's. To hot to continue right now, I'll wait until it cools off later this afternoon or evening.

[cobra bill]

Originally Posted by cobra de capell

why is it just the nut bags that are left.

The most truthful statement that you've even posted, lefty.

You seem to think it will hurt my feelings calling me a lefty, I am proud to be a liberal!

[Scott S]

Originally Posted by Excaliber

Group hug?

Nah, I'll pass on going that far...

By the way, in spite of all this mornings activity here on CC I've:
Installed my new flywheel and re-assembled the trans with new synchro's.

Re-assembled the trans? Can't you libs get it right the first time?

Scott S

[Excaliber]

Well, I did have to take it apart and put it back together more than once before I was comfortable with it... re-re-assemble might be more accurate.

[Ron61]

Scott,

Ernies working on his transmission can't be put under a label such as Libs. After all no politician would ever do anything over or check it to see if it was right or was even going to work before passing a law. That was just checking what he had did to satisfy himself that it was correct.

Ron

[bomelia]

Originally Posted by Excaliber

It aint over yet, the fat lady hasn't even warmed up.

I would like to see a public option, myself, carefully written. Maybe we'll get there yet.

Thats the problem... too many fat people singing for handouts, like baby birds in a nest when the momma bird returns with food.

[Dan40]

Originally Posted by Excaliber

It aint over yet, the fat lady hasn't even warmed up.

I would like to see a public option, myself, carefully written. Maybe we'll get there yet.

Benjamin Franklin wrote:

“When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.”

[cobra de capell]

Originally Posted by Excaliber

Well, I did have to take it apart and put it back together more than once before I was comfortable with it... re-re-assemble might be more accurate.

You know, as you slip into retirement, perhaps you should just sit there.....

[Excaliber]

This isn't about creating a welfare state or folks asking for handouts. It's about reforming health care for the benefit of all the people and bring affordable health care to those that don't have any. The number of those without is growing every day. These aren't welfare folks, there normal everyday hard working people who may have lost their job and health care along with it. Or had a major health problem and found out their insurance was cancelled. There are a bunch of reasons why we need reform.

...not ready for the rockin' chair, but when I am, I want a Harley engine on it.

[cobra de capell]

Perhaps a few more posters here will come to understand the truth of Goya’s axiom that “The Sleep of Reason Produces Monsters.”

[J. T. Toad]

Originally Posted by Excaliber

This isn't about creating a welfare state or folks asking for handouts. It's about reforming health care for the benefit of all the people and bring affordable health care to those that don't have any. The number of those without is growing every day. These aren't welfare folks, there normal everyday hard working people who may have lost their job and health care along with it. Or had a major health problem and found out their insurance was cancelled. There are a bunch of reasons why we need reform.

Yep, this is why Medical and Medicare (government run health care) reimbursement is so low that ERs are in the red because private paying care no longer makes up for the losses in operation.

Since when has health care been an entitlement?

Yep, they aren't welfare folks, but they certainly want someone else to give them a quick fix for even the slightest of ailments.

Anyone remember (link?) how Forbes when faced with insurmountable health care costs, due to unlimited care (full coverage benefit program), fixed the problem?

What do you think human nature/society is going to do with every asinine plan which has been proposed thus far?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2jijuj1ysw

Reagan screwed up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLJxm...om=PL&index=27


They have plenty to hide. I am confident the Jamo and Jamo like people of the world could dissect the 72 pages in mere minutes of glancing at the social engineering.

[Dan40]

Originally Posted by Excaliber

This isn't about creating a welfare state or folks asking for handouts. It's about reforming health care for the benefit of all the people and bring affordable health care to those that don't have any. The number of those without is growing every day. These aren't welfare folks, there normal everyday hard working people who may have lost their job and health care along with it. Or had a major health problem and found out their insurance was cancelled. There are a bunch of reasons why we need reform.

...not ready for the rockin' chair, but when I am, I want a Harley engine on it.

Today we spend dollars that are half borrowed. Meaning that it is a welfare state. Those that cannot afford health care now, will not be able to afford it under any of the overhaul, not reform, bills presently proposed.
And it is contained within each of the bills that those who cannot afford the "new" health care will be subsidized by the Guv. THAT IS WELFARE!
And if you actually believe that ANY Government program is going to SAVE money, please name one that has and does.
The other thing that spending half borrowed dollars means is not that we as a nation are going broke. No, it means that we as a nation are long since GONE BROKE.
Some hard working people do suffer circumstances that crush them. LIFE is not fair! Supporting those few that do suffer through no fault of their own REQUIRES that we support legions of worthless parasites that have sucked the life out of this country since FDR's time. At some time we have to stop or the nation collapses. We cannot indefinitely support the parasites you feel so much compassion for. Our engine might have already blown and we are just coasting to the junk yard now.