Live in PA, looking at a BDR in Kansas

[Mark IV]

Originally Posted by mrmustang

As I stated earlier, it depends on exactly (100% verbatim) how the current title reads, and if they used a state issued VIN, or the VIN supplied by BDR.

If a Kansas state issued VIN, PA will title the car as the current title reads and you will be responsible for all local/county inspections. You will not be able to title as a special constructed, or at least as of 2 years ago, you could not, and forget about collectors resgistrations.

if issued a Kansas title with the BDR VIN, you should be able to retitle under the PA "Special Construction" title/registration process. This is the best way to go in PA for any kit car (Yes, a BDR is a kit car, same as a new CSX6000 series)..........

As stated numerous times, attempts to get get a title like the Kansas title redone as a "vintage" anything will earn you an anal probing by the PA State Police, who are not as stupid or naive as you might want to think and have seen and heard it all long before you even thought to purchase your car.

Wyoming titles/registrations, Alabama title houses, etc, have all been found out by the MVS in Harrisburg. Before attempting to circumnavigate the "Special Construction" title procedure, ask yourself if you can afford to watch your car impounded and crushed, think long and hard on this one.

Yes, really.

Bill,

We have seen New York State looking VERY hard at cars coming in with Montana titles, especially cars from Montana LLCs....you know, the ones you set up for $500 via an agent in MT. so you save the $5000 plus in sales tax? There were more Ferraris registered per capita in Montana last year than any other state. Do you REALLY think any of those cars were EVER actually in Montana? The DMVs in other states are not stupid and as has been proven they even monitor this website. In NYS it is all about the sales tax and they are not gonna miss out on thousands of revenue dollars!

[twobjshelbys]

Originally Posted by Mark IV

Bill,

We have seen New York State looking VERY hard at cars coming in with Montana titles, especially cars from Montana LLCs....you know, the ones you set up for $500 via an agent in MT. so you save the $5000 plus in sales tax? There were more Ferraris registered per capita in Montana last year than any other state. Do you REALLY think any of those cars were EVER actually in Montana? The DMVs in other states are not stupid and as has been proven they even monitor this website. In NYS it is all about the sales tax and they are not gonna miss out on thousands of revenue dollars!

The Montana LLC thing has been going on for years. In fact, I just saw a picture of a New Ford GT with Montana plates. From a guy I think ought to know better. Colorado about 10 years ago went around looking for the big motor homes and dinged the owners with a fine plus back registrations plus interest. Montana is also a favorite haven for private planes and big boats (Montana doesn't have a lake big enough for a Cigarette boat!)

[A-Snake]

I'm being told the owner doesn't have a title because KS handles these cars differently than PA and I'll only get a title after the sale is executed via Bill of Sale.

As Bill said, BS. Kansas is a title state. The seller must provide a title, then a Bill of Sale is completed.

No title? Walk away.