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12-30-2008, 11:12 AM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Santa Cruz,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF 2613 Titanium w/Black, Roush 402SR
Posts: 4,097
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Originally Posted by wanab5150
Get there early..............like I said in the previous post. Depending on how important it is to you, I would get there before 3:AM. I got there at 10 PM the night before only to fine another guy sleeping in front of the door ( and it wasn't a transient!)
The guidelines change every year. Who knows what might happen next year. The SB WILL disappear, it's just a matter of when! Tom
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I went to the Santa Clara DMV last year, and getting there at 10 pm, or 3 am or even 5 am wouldn't have given you any extra advantage in securing an SB100 cert (just more time to think about how much coffee you drank and how long you'll have to wait to hit the head ).
I think I got there around 6:00 am and the DMV didn't open up until 9:00 am that particular day. If you go to the right office and they work with all of the SB 100 applicants as a group, you shouldn't have any problems at all. As others have mentioned, the soft econonmy might ease the demand this year.
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No stop signs, speed limit - Nobody's gonna slow me down - Like a wheel, gonna spin it
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12-30-2008, 11:38 AM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Santa Cruz,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF 2613 Titanium w/Black, Roush 402SR
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Originally Posted by wanab5150
What most don't understand is that just because your car is smog exempt and may be a factory car like a Superformance, does not mean you won't get cited for excessive noise, no front plate, too low to the ground and many other vehicle code violations. Almost all Cobras exceed the legal decibel levels in Ca. and none of us run a front plate. Five of us in NorCal got stopped 2 weeks ago in the National Forrest above Sacramento and the Ranger started to cite all of us. We got out of it but there was a reason which I won’t go into.
Many cities and the state would like to put all these cars on tow truck for registration violations. A car will be towed and stored after being out of registration for 6 months. If that happens, you WILL NOT get your car out of impound until corrections are made. It could take months! Don't take any chances. Your cries won’t be heard.
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Tom,
I was under the impression that all safety equipment requirements need to meet the year the car is modeled after (i.e. 1965). For example, for the brake and safety inspection, a back-up light is not a requirement and sidepipes were a standard option at the time. So you go throug a CHP inspection, take your car to the BAR, you do a brake/light/safety inspection, and your car is technically illegal on CA roads??
Also, I have never heard of a car being impounded for a "fix it" ticket unless you have other outstanding violations. If I get tagged for no front plate, I'll hang one on the car. If I get a fix it ticket for loud pipes, I'll get it signed off.
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No stop signs, speed limit - Nobody's gonna slow me down - Like a wheel, gonna spin it
Last edited by Got the Bug; 12-30-2008 at 04:38 PM..
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12-30-2008, 12:02 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
Posts: 9,591
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Got the Bug
I went to the Santa Clara DMV last year, and getting there at 10 pm, or 3 am or even 5 am wouldn't have given you any extra advantage in securing an SB100 cert (just more time to think about how much coffee you drank and how long you'll have to wait to hit the head ).
I think I got there around 6:00 am and the DMV didn't open up until 9:00 am that particular day. If you go to the right office and they work with all of the SB 100 applicants as a group, you shouldn't have any problems at all. As others have mentioned, the soft econonmy might ease the demand this year.
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Yes, I beat Doug and was first in line at Santa Clara last year. I think I got there around 5:00-5:15 AM. Not only was I not the first person to receive my SB100 # (I was nearly last in the group), but the DMV had a paperwork snafu and mixed up my paperwork with another SB100 attendee. Personally, I would show up about 60-90 minutes before the opening, since many DMV's will handle all the people in line in one big phone call to Sacramento.
Again, make sure your TIN #'s match and all your personal information like name, address, phone number, etc. are correct. I have visited the DMV so many times this year that I'm thinking of asking them for an office.
In fact, I was there this morning. AGAIN. The VIN on the title and registration did not match the vehicle VIN by ONE LETTER. When I finished my registration about a month ago, the DMV person input the incorrect VIN #. Hopefully, it's all done now. Knock on wood.
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12-30-2008, 02:43 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Fairfield,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CRII with a Stroked Windsor
Posts: 976
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Originally Posted by Don DePontee
This is a new one, I was under the impression that once a car has been registered it's done with no looking back for the SB-100 at a later date. It would be great if it works out for you.
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Nope.. thats not the case. The office manager even called Sacramento to verify. He said mine was a really easy one to deal with.
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01-06-2009, 12:25 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Ocean Isle Beach,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance #2769 Roush 427R Dart Block
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Doug, while law enforcement hopefully will not mess with any of us. The fact that that your car can be towed for a fix-it ticket is real. An example is that if your oil pan is lower than the bottom of your rim height which is a simple fix-it ticket. Added to that cite is 24002cvc, unsafe vehicle, which orders the driver to immediately take the car to a repair station or park it within a reasonable time from the date and time of the issuing of the cite. The next time the car is seen moving without the violation being corrected, the car can and probably will be hooked.
As far as registration goes, a cite for expired reg is also a fix-it cite of sorts. But, wait six months and the vehicle code states "must take", which leaves discretion out of the quotient.
For things like excessive noise, you can be cited (and in Monterey will be) for simply cruising in a low gear making about 100 db or less ( I can’t remember the max Db level....93, 97, somewhere around that). It has nothing to do with the fact you're driving a replica or smog exempt vehicle. Many out there think because it's a copy of a '65 it falls under the rules of a '65.
Were able to run some of the equipment we do because law enforcement generally WANTS to look the other way because most of us are not hooligans...well maybe I am, a little! There are numerous violations on these cars as soon as they hit the street. Just drive up to an officer and say "you can't touch my car because it's had all the inspections and besides, it's a "65", and see what happens. I don't think in '65 you were required to run a front plate in Ca. but you are now and so is replica of a '65.
I hope this answers your question. I may have overstated things a little. I just feel lucky to be here and still able to own one of these cars knowing what I know.
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I miss my Tazer
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01-06-2009, 12:50 PM
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Location: Ocean Isle Beach,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance #2769 Roush 427R Dart Block
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Sorry........on the loud pipes, there's excessive noise and modified exhaust. The burden of proof falls on the owner to prove the (over100 db) pipes he's running are not modified. In that case, stand by to jump through some whoops. No officer knows everything about the exhaust system you have on your car, therefore, modified exhaust would seem logical if the car was extreemly loud compared to what he has to compare it to. The court would then decide the course of action................sucks , doesn't it.
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01-06-2009, 04:23 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: ione,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF #1473 392 cu.in. titanium/black stripes
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Tom,
I gotta love your quote:
'because most of us are not hooligans...well maybe I am, a little!"
A little...a little he says. You just crack me up!
Bob
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01-06-2009, 10:45 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: El Dorado Hills,
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Cobra Make, Engine: LA Exotics
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I agree Bob, definately a hooligan!!
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01-07-2009, 11:41 AM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Ocean Isle Beach,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance #2769 Roush 427R Dart Block
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As soon as I crawl out from under the bus.........let's see, That would make John a Hooligan Plus and Bob a Hooligan in sheeps clothing. Please!
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I miss my Tazer
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01-07-2009, 12:11 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: San Clemente,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX 4758, CSX 381 Keith Craft 482 w/ Weber 48 IDA's
Posts: 492
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Tom,
I like your thoughts and they're certainly a gentle reminder with these beasts that we are always on a slippery slope while on the street with the rest of the unitiated humanity and could get pulled over at any time. Being a d**k while driving will most certainly get you there. Hooligans on the track, gentlemen on the street. Like Borat, "I like".
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01-07-2009, 02:08 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: San Diego,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF1715, Roush Built 434 ci Stroker, Dart Block, Ported AFR 205 Heads... 561 hp / 547 tq, Former Roush Show Car, Completed and Prepped By Olthoff Racing.
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Originally Posted by wanab5150
I will chime in and say that I and 6 others went to Folsom, and they were schooled up on SB-100's. Make sure that you get good advice from an experienced individual about whatever DMV you use, AND GO THERE!
Roseville DMV had NO idea what an SB was (or how to find their ass with both hands for that matter) but through the grapevine, I was told about Folsom. I was in line at 10PM the night before and another guy was in front of me. We spent the night, and before 1st light, 5 other guys showed up.
Don't take it lightly if you're serious about getting one. Calif. could shut the door on SB-100 anytime and without notice. What most don't understand is that just because your car is smog exempt and may be a factory car like a Superformance, does not mean you won't get cited for excessive noise, no front plate, too low to the ground and many other vehicle code violations. Almost all Cobras exceed the legal decibel levels in Ca. and none of us run a front plate. Five of us in NorCal got stopped 2 weeks ago in the National Forrest above Sacramento and the Ranger started to cite all of us. We got out of it but there was a reason which I won’t go into.
Many cities and the state would like to put all these cars on tow truck for registration violations. A car will be towed and stored after being out of registration for 6 months. If that happens, you WILL NOT get your car out of impound until corrections are made. It could take months! Don't take any chances. Your cries won’t be heard.
Law enforcement looks at it like this.........You've been allowed to put (1of 500) completely smog illegal, noisy hot rods on the streets, and all you have to do is follow the rules. Stating you didn't know the law or didn’t keep up with the current laws will not go well for anyone.
I'm not trying to lecture but I just want everyone to NOT have any issues with these awesome cars. I would hate to see any hot rod on a hook for a dumb reason! We’ve been handed an “E” ticket from the state. Their looking for any reason to take it back! tom
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I am glad I also have a house in Arizona. If SB 100 goes away in California, and there is no grandfather clause, I will register it there. I have already taken one vehicle out of Califonia to Arizona because of smog requirments.
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01-07-2009, 10:20 PM
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If I live long enough to wear this one out maybe I'll call you to see if I can move in with you long enough to register my next car. However, by then SMOG FREE motors will probably make 1000 HP on wesson oil! tom
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I miss my Tazer
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