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12-13-2013, 10:27 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Bellingham,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPO2089, Ford Crate 393 475 Hp
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ZDDP Additive
Due to the lack of zinc in modern motor oils, I've been using a ZDDP additive to protect the flat tappets and camshaft in my 57 T-Bird, Y Block, 312.
From the perspective of 'there's never too much of a good thing', other than cost, would there be any benefit or downside of using this additive in a motor with roller tappets? |
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12-13-2013, 12:22 PM
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Location: Colorado Springs,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft, supercharged Coyote
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I use an additive on all my engines. In theory, it will decrease bearing wear and glassification of the cylinder walls and rings.
Sounds good on paper, anyway.
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12-13-2013, 01:12 PM
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Thx. Just did a search of the forum. Lotsa info. Seems the consensus is that it cant hurt.
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12-13-2013, 02:09 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: SoCal,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX #4xxx with CSX 482; David Kee Toploader
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If you want "belt and suspenders", then Joe Gibbs XP3 and Cam Shield. You will be oozing ZDDP! 
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12-13-2013, 03:41 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Castalia,
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Cobra Make, Engine: EM cobra, 450 inch sbc running a best ET of 9.14..so far..ALL MOTOR...approx 800 horse.............ERA with 482 FE..All Aluminum Engine
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I use Brad Penn in everything.....
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12-13-2013, 06:40 PM
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Join Date: May 2001
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Cobra Make, Engine: RCR GT 40 & 1966 Fairlane 390 5 speed
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I picked you a case of Brad Penn for Coach Mike last week when I was in Lawrenceburg, Tenn at a speedshop. Cost $69 a case.
Local race guys use it and claim it's the best they have tried.
Dwight
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12-13-2013, 07:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hotfingrs
I use Brad Penn in everything.....
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Ditto.....
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12-14-2013, 07:12 AM
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Brad Penn Green, (20-50) with zink additive is $145 smackers a case in Ontario Canada. It is very hard to find, and has to be ordered ahead of time. The product is not usually kept in stock, and I find it at a speed shop 56 KLMS from my home. I use 14 quarts of oil every change. With the WIX oil filter, the cost for an oil change is a little over two bills every 3000 miles. I'm not wineing, but I think you get what you pay for. Crappy Tire does not fill the bill. |
12-14-2013, 12:47 PM
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maybe having it shipped in from the US from a dealer may be cheaper for you.
have no idea what shipping and customs would do but it may be worth looking at.
a case sells for 68.00..plus shipping
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12-14-2013, 03:48 PM
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Don't know where you are buying your B/P oil but you are being ripped a new one.. 
the last 4 cases I bought were in the neighborhood of $65:00 plus tax/case.
RP oil
1111 Burns St. E.,unit #3
Whitby On.
905-666-2761
They may ship direct to you if you don't want the drive.they are the distributor & probably sell to the retailer you are buying from.
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12-16-2013, 11:44 PM
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Bob! 'A 57 T-Bird? All that time in B'ham and I didn't get to see your '57 T-Bird? Ha! Have a Merry Christmas!
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12-18-2013, 11:18 PM
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....Ward, it wasn't ready for prime time. Enjoy the sunshine and warm weather. Merry Christmas!
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12-19-2013, 07:26 AM
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jegs has free shipping and handling buy it from them it shows up 3 days later at your front door.
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12-19-2013, 09:58 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by madmaxx
jegs has free shipping and handling buy it from them it shows up 3 days later at your front door.
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I get my Brad Penn off of Amazon. I just checked and a case of twelve is $67.91 with free shipping for those of us with Prime, like me.  |
12-19-2013, 10:56 AM
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Keith Craft sells and uses Joe Gibbs oil in all his engines. As I do.
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12-19-2013, 04:06 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
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Amazon has all the Joe Gibbs oil flavors as well, with free shipping for Prime, but I was surprised to see that the price of Joe Gibbs is about double that of Brad Penn.  |
12-19-2013, 05:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickt
Amazon has all the Joe Gibbs oil flavors as well, with free shipping for Prime, but I was surprised to see that the price of Joe Gibbs is about double that of Brad Penn. |
You get whatcha pay for.
Last edited by RodKnock; 12-19-2013 at 05:22 PM..
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12-20-2013, 04:07 AM
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M1, 15w50.
It has all the goodies needed without the "Cobra Tax" added to all the halo oils' prices.
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12-20-2013, 05:16 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by undy
M1, 15w50.
It has all the goodies needed without the "Cobra Tax" added to all the halo oils' prices.
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Mobile 1 at the 50w level is good for ZDDP, see below. BUT, once you drop down below that weight the ZDDP in Mobile 1 drops to 700ppm. Totally unacceptable for solid flat tappets. So, with all the stupid people we have on this forum, who are seemingly incapable of reading critically, you should, as a Christmas act of charity, wave that flag in front of their blind eyes.... Maybe jump up and down, too.
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12-20-2013, 11:17 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickt
Amazon has all the Joe Gibbs oil flavors as well, with free shipping for Prime, but I was surprised to see that the price of Joe Gibbs is about double that of Brad Penn. |
Yep, I about stroked out when I went and picked up a case of Joe's stuff. Not cheap, but has all the good stuff in it. I'm sure Joe isn't making it himself. Curious who is making it for him?
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