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02-15-2016, 12:53 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Carlsbad,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SAI FIA, 289HP (5-bolt), 48IDA Webers
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Competition 260 & 289 original "kidney bean" wheels
I am currently in the process of restoring an early 260 / 289 competition Cobra and I thought I would share some photos of the "Kidney Bean" wheels during the resto process as I know there are some forum members that are interested in the early wheels. Some of the earned "patina" has been left on the wheels.
Front wheel...
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02-15-2016, 12:54 PM
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02-15-2016, 12:58 PM
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Front wheel after...
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02-15-2016, 12:59 PM
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Rear wheel after...
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02-15-2016, 02:01 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Manchester,
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Cobra Make, Engine: AK1085 (302 Street), HTM111 (427 Comp), CSX2375R (289 Comp) and COB5999 (427 S/C)
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Very very impressive!
John you have done a banner job and I am so looking forward to pictures post Dow dip....
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02-15-2016, 02:03 PM
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Very nice, I like the look of the kidney bean wheels.
will you be posting pictures of the car restoration process?
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02-15-2016, 02:22 PM
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Very cool!
Larry
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02-15-2016, 03:05 PM
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Beautiful job of restoring those wheels. Love the finish.
What tires are you putting on?
Cheers
Greg
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02-15-2016, 05:28 PM
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I will have to talk to the owner to see if it is ok to post photos of the Cobra in question.
The wheels will now get the DOW coating done and be ready for the tires to get mounted. As far as the tires being used they will be AVON CR6ZZ in 245/60R15 (rear) and 205/70R15 (front). We will also be converting the outside appearance of the tires to look like this....
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02-15-2016, 06:58 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2010
Cobra Make, Engine: Viking Blue "64" 289 FIA comp car by Superformance #0002, Keith Craft - 331 (460HP), Jim Inglese - 48IDA Weber carbs, BW T10 4spd.
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Originally Posted by CompClassics
I will have to talk to the owner to see if it is ok to post photos of the Cobra in question.
The wheels will now get the DOW coating done and be ready for the tires to get mounted. As far as the tires being used they will be AVON CR6ZZ in 245/70R15 (rear) and 205/70R15 (front). We will also be converting the outside appearance of the tires to look like this....
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John,
Is there really an Avon 245/70R15?
The comp 289's look best or "period correct" with about a 28" rear tire... Avons seem to be limited to 26.95".
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02-15-2016, 07:16 PM
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Love it. My color blue!!!!!!!
GO Blue Streaks!
Cheers
Greg
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02-15-2016, 08:35 PM
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My mistake on the 245/70R15 size, it is a 245/60R15. As far as fitting a 28" tall tire within my Cobras wheel well, I don't think that would happen. Please see photo...28" at the blue arrow.
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02-15-2016, 11:00 PM
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But don't forget that fender lip will be one inch higher too...
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02-16-2016, 02:21 AM
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One inch (?), the car would look like a 1970s jacked up muscle car with the nose in the weeds!
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02-16-2016, 02:27 AM
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One inch (?), the car would look like a 1970s jacked up muscle car with the nose in the weeds!
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02-16-2016, 03:53 AM
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I'm trying to source a good "Tall" tire for my next set, as well. Never been happy with my "Small" tire look. Those kidneys are pretty awesome!!!
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02-16-2016, 04:08 AM
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Great job John, they look exceptional.
Do hope the owner does allow some pics .
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02-16-2016, 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted by CompClassics
One inch (?), the car would look like a 1970s jacked up muscle car with the nose in the weeds!
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A 1" difference in tire size will only raise the car 1/2" unless the tires you buy are out of round.......................
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02-16-2016, 09:09 AM
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Quote:
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One inch (?), the car would look like a 1970s jacked up muscle car with the nose in the weeds!
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It's my understanding Goodyear made 800/820/15 and 600/670-15 specifically for the 63-64 small block comp cars. The closest I've found to those sizes is what's commonly used at Goodwood Revival - Dunlop CR65 700L-15 28.7" and 600L-15 26.9".
Personal preference but I'm partial to the taller tires. We don't have to like it... but it's the way it was.
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02-16-2016, 11:20 AM
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Actually tire manufacturers tire sizes can vary widely as to what is embossed on the sidewall of the tire, it can be bigger or smaller but rarely is it exact dimensionally.
To correct further: AVON CR6ZZ 245/60R15 are 26.7" (not 26.9") tall according to the manufacturer.
This thread was not started as a comparison of tire sizes and which tire manufacturer is more correct than another manufacturer. When it comes down to that there is only personal preference and the tires that came on the original cars and since those tires are no longer available it does not matter which brand you use as none of the available tire manufacturers are "period correct" in any aspect other than they are all black. The same can be said for today's comp 289 Cobra wheel manufacturers, there is not one manufacturer that is producing a wheel that is a 100% copy / replica of the original wheels. If you want to be a builder / owner of a Cobra that is a 100% copy of the original 1960s Cobra than why would you settle for wheels (or anything else on the car) that was not as installed on the original Cobras? On the photo posted above with the four Cobras together the two on the left are in period photos, the two on the right are of a car that looks to have non-original wheel sizes, correct me if I am wrong and tire sizes (unless you only are interested in tire heights and nothing else). If I am correct in my observation than the tire widths on those tires in the photo have a wider footprint than the 1960s originals.
I am trying to point out that unless you have the 1960s original parts you have to make do until you can locate it or somebody reproduces it, hopefully whoever reproduces the part (any) does a 100% faithful reproduction of the original.
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