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Old 06-19-2018, 03:42 PM
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This is a stunning example of a pretty much perfect recreation of a UK spec RHD Cobra as it would have come out of the showroom in 1964.

1965 Cobra 289 MK II continuation - Duncan Hamilton ROFGO

I know the car well and I doubt you will find a more fastidiously detailed and accurate example anywhere....period. There probably aren't many, if any, genuine Cobras restored to this level of accuracy.

Feast your eyes...

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Old 06-19-2018, 04:22 PM
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It certainly is beautiful! Very nicely done.
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Very nice! I like the use of correct exhaust manifolds instead of headers and Girling brakes. A lot of attention to detail there!

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Yes, the builder did a very good job. Correct details on the dash (ammeter/fuel gauge/water temp gauge) are good to see.

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That is one beautiful Cobra and he did a fantastic job on it. Thanks for posting the pictures.

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Old 06-20-2018, 04:51 AM
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I know the owner/builder very well and the meticulous research and attention to detail is astounding. Apart from the tiny concessions listed, it is a definitive example of a 289 "COBxxxx" Cobra of the period. Sadly, it needs to go to fund the next project.
It will need an owner who will appreciate the enormous time, effort and skill that has gone into creating it and who specifically wants an exacting recreation with all that brings with it.
KMS should buy it as a shining example of one of their cars.

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Very nice! I like the use of correct exhaust manifolds instead of headers and Girling brakes. A lot of attention to detail there!

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This is truly a beautiful car. Are these the correct exhaust manifolds for a 289 Cobra? MORE NEW COBRA STUFF FROM HAWK I believe I had seen them before but they were not being reproduced.
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This is truly a beautiful car. Are these the correct exhaust manifolds for a 289 Cobra? MORE NEW COBRA STUFF FROM HAWK I believe I had seen them before but they were not being reproduced.
Yes, those look to be correct. I got mine from McCluskey but it looks like Gerry is making them too.
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I may be wrong, but I don’t think this car uses Hawk manifolds. I recall that for some reason they weren’t correct for a Cobra.
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Unless there’s some difference in the size, those look like what was used on original Cobras.
I’m sure no expert on COB cars though, so it’s possible they used something else but I kind of doubt it.
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Sorry to take this farther afield, but there are some pictured in this thread that look like the Hawk ones: SlabSide exhaust manifolds Wonder how they flowed?
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The manifolds on this car were from McCluskey and although Gerry’s manifolds weren’t correct at the time, they are now.
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Paul, tell the owner I'm really impressed with his build. Just noticed he even got the door alignment bumpers in! Almost no one gets that right!
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Nice looking 289 Cobra overall!
There is a lot of nice details throughout but there are some details that can be improved upon. Any idea of the price that the owner is asking?

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Nice looking 289 Cobra overall!
There is a lot of nice details throughout but there are some details that can be improved upon. Any idea of the price that the owner is asking?
Okay, I’m intrigued, what do you think can be improved?

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Nice looking 289 Cobra overall!
There is a lot of nice details throughout but there are some details that can be improved upon. Any idea of the price that the owner is asking?
I inquired about the price. Haven't received a response yet.
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This is truly a beautiful car. Are these the correct exhaust manifolds for a 289 Cobra? MORE NEW COBRA STUFF FROM HAWK I believe I had seen them before but they were not being reproduced.

Somebody on the west coast of the USA is making replacement iron Y manifolds also.

(AC Cars was the original supplier of all the iron Y manifolds and fabricated exhaust system components including mufflers except chromium plated tail pipe tips. Small parts wise Dorman® provided studs for the down pipes, Shakeproof® provided the internal tooth lock washers for the iron manifold fixing twelve point cap screws, Ferry Cap & Set Screw Company® provided the twelve point cap screws to secure the iron manifolds, and Dunlop® supplied the vibration isolator mounts near the mufflers through a subsidiary.

The iron Y manifolds for Cobras are different than the ultra rare Ford offered ones for Ford Falcons. Very rare Sunbeam Tiger iron Y manifolds offer by Rootes were not the same as Cobra or Falcon versions.

Early AC Cars casting included their part number cast into each Y manifold. Most iron Y manifolds for Cobras have no text included.

All but cars near the end with 4V and all 2-4V induction systems required exhaust heated air for the automatic choke pull off system. Engine installers had to braze or electrically weld a for the purpose fitting to one Y manifold. A steel tube was inserted into that fitting and connected to the automatic choke mechanisms.)
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I know the car well and I doubt you will find a more fastidiously detailed and accurate example anywhere....period. There probably aren't many, if any, genuine Cobras restored to this level of accuracy.

Paul
All right. I understand passion for these cars. And I comprehend the level of skill and workmanship that goes into building a recreation of a car that is now over 50 years old. But I have to ask, please do not reach the point where you say, "This replica is more accurate than most original Cobras." It simply is not true. Even suggesting this implies that the owners of the COB/ COX cars from the 60's are somehow less involved, less interested, and less passionate about these automobiles than the people building the new ones. And I can say from over 45 years of experience in knowing Cobra owners and owning Cobras myself, do not minimize the love and care that the owners of the originals lavish on their prized possessions by suggesting your car is a more accurate example. Especially in order to sell it. Thanks.
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All right. I understand passion for these cars. And I comprehend the level of skill and workmanship that goes into building a recreation of a car that is now over 50 years old. But I have to ask, please do not reach the point where you say, "This replica is more accurate than most original Cobras." It simply is not true. Even suggesting this implies that the owners of the COB/ COX cars from the 60's are somehow less involved, less interested, and less passionate about these automobiles than the people building the new ones. And I can say from over 45 years of experience in knowing Cobra owners and owning Cobras myself, do not minimize the love and care that the owners of the originals lavish on their prized possessions by suggesting your car is a more accurate example. Especially in order to sell it. Thanks.
Ned, you do have to admit that many (most?) original cars are so altered over the last 50 plus years that many aren't "original" anymore and I think that's what Paul is getting at. I got into a disagreement with an owner of a beautiful silver leaf spring car from southern CA that told me the dual 4V set up on his car was original and was how it came from SA when new but the truth is the only thing correct on the entire induction system was the intake manifold. Passionate yes but misinformed.
From what Paul is saying, I don't see any minimization of original owners passion for their cars. On the contrary, I see someone so passionate about Cobras that he tried to replicate it to the smallest degree. (Well, except the radiator, fan, shifter gaiter and a couple heres and theres but...)
That's how I read it anyway.
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