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kitcarbp 07-01-2021 11:51 AM

CSX3356 for sale
 
Browsing today turned this car up for sale on Auto Trader Classics.
The stuff you find by accident!

https://classics.autotrader.com/clas...obra/101487200

For $1.3M. Save the hassle of dealing with auction companies

patrickt 07-01-2021 03:09 PM

I don't know - something didn't look right. Either that or it was the photos. Does this car have some sort of funky "story" to it?%/

LMH 07-01-2021 04:04 PM

I sure don't like that angle iron poorly welded onto the lower front control arms. Reminds me of a cheap repair job. I can't imagine McClusky doing that and he did some restoration work on it at some point!

Larry

sgianino 07-01-2021 04:09 PM

I bet Tony would Know! twobjshelbys:)

twobjshelbys 07-01-2021 05:24 PM

I know nothing :)

... about this one. But Woodlands Texas sure rings a bell.

Certainly someone has the book...

twobjshelbys 07-01-2021 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by kitcarbp (Post 1494397)
Save the hassle of dealing with auction companies

Probably not, in fact, for cars like this the major auctions get you lots more press and coverage. Although on a car like this, word of mouth probably is just as much a factor.

Consignment shops get the same or more than the auctions on the sale. Not saving any money and not getting the exposure that a major auction would get.

sunman 07-01-2021 06:00 PM

Google it up “CSX3356”

DanEC 07-02-2021 05:26 AM

Obviously a throughly done car but some odd thing on it with all the zip ties and multiple piece brake line runs - were original sway bars that spindly?

1985 CCX 07-02-2021 06:47 AM

Larry

That is the way it was done..... Original cars are not what you may think.
Welds were fast and furious. Comp cars used the angle iron like this as it adds strength to the tubes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by LMH (Post 1494401)
I sure don't like that angle iron poorly welded onto the lower front control arms. Reminds me of a cheap repair job. I can't imagine McClusky doing that and he did some restoration work on it at some point!

Larry


LMH 07-02-2021 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1985 CCX (Post 1494424)
Larry

That is the way it was done..... Original cars are not what you may think.
Welds were fast and furious. Comp cars used the angle iron like this as it adds strength to the tubes.

Could be Jeff but I've never seen angle iron added to control arms on original cars and this isn't a comp car. It was a street car somewhat modified to SC specs prior to 1980. McClusky added to the SC look when he did some restoration on it later. No history of competition use. Just looks cheap and junky IMO.

Larry

1985 CCX 07-02-2021 08:38 AM

Larry

It does look cheap and job-lot but that was how SAI modified them for strength in their facility then. Was not my call as I was a shimmer in my fathers eye back then.
I have seen this first hand on both original S/C and comp cars and also modified street 3000's. :( I had the same thought the first time I saw this mod as its a bit shop class but seems it worked... :cool:

STD treatment for race, its true and yes this is a street car however clearly modified to race spec. Countless changes and not a conours street car.

Timinator 07-03-2021 09:52 AM

That car is a hard pass from me.

1985 CCX 07-03-2021 01:07 PM

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Typical history, just changed over years.

patty442 07-03-2021 02:54 PM

Been awhile, Jeff. Hope Max is doing well. In reference to the angle iron applied to the front lower control arms in a Cobra 427. The reason that there appears to be a discrepancy in comments, knowledge, and experience from other posters as to the originality and quality of craftsmanship is as follows --- judge for yourself. I have discussed originality relative to time in the past, won't go over it again. First NO Cobra 427 ever left AC cars with angle iron applied period. I have numerous photos of the chassis of the 30-- to 3053 cars on a rack in England. Many different cars. Multiple views clearly showing the entire front suspension. Street cars the answer is obvious. Next, there was a technical service bulletin / blueprint issued by Shelby American detailing the modification of the front lower control arms with the angle iron. I have to check the designer and date on that blueprint. Some read the bulletin ,some ignored it, some installed the angle iron. Does that make it original? Could it have been installed at or after it left Shelby American. Is it original now? What about the delivering dealer installing it at the dealership before delivery. Came back after delivery. Is it now still original? And finally addressing the poor quality welds. The blueprint clearly shows a very high quality "stack of dimes" welding process. As all of you know the quality of welding can be somewhat variable. In addition the blueprints show some intricate cutouts that would have taken some care and desire to accomplish. Some followed those details. Some fabricators- technicians didn't. When I purchased my car in 1973 the angle iron was there on the arms, and the blueprint was in a stack of boxes of documents and literature that I received with my car from the original owner who had held back from the second owner. Some day all that stuff should be scanned. Hopefully that clears up the angle iron controversies. Everyone have a happy holiday. Bob

marcocsx3121 07-04-2021 05:14 AM

The slightly infamous Carter Gette did the angle iron reinforcement on several street 427s (including mine, CSX 3121) in the 1970s. Along with teflon bushings, it seemed to tighten things up a bit, but I still wish that I had known more about four wheel alignment and corner balancing in those days.


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