Are these original Ray Browns/ASC "Impacts"?

wcampbell · #1 (**permalink**) 03-08-2006, 06:17 AM

Picked these up from a friend the other day. We found them in a beat up Shelby clone that someone had built years ago. Was wondering if they're real or repop and in either case what they are probably worth. The Male tongue has the numbers "MS22003-1 Fc86". Also on the belt adjusters there is the number "4060 Fc87"....

computerworks · #2 (**permalink**) 03-08-2006, 06:46 AM

Hard to tell from the small pics....

But here is some info:

Since these were all aircraft style belts, the 'legit' ones carry the Mil-spec designation for these style seat belts, MS22003-1 for a 3" belt

Since safety items needed annual certification, I would guess that the FC number is the year of manufacture...having seen orig Cobra belts with an FC65 designation.

This came up a few years back on this thread:

http://www.clubcobra.com/showthread.php?t=57232

csx700? · #3 (**permalink**) 03-08-2006, 10:16 AM

these belts look more like the "DIEST" belts that i have from the '80s. i believe the orginal belts had the leather portion attached to the male side of the assembly and the female side of the assembly had a closed end at the or where the hook contacts the male side. also the attaching hardware does not look correct for the time period. i might be guessing but the 86 & 87 in the part numbers is probably the year code. also military designation on the original belts should be "AN" and not "MS" as "MS" designations are more recent military part prefixes.

wcampbell · #4 (**permalink**) 03-08-2006, 01:42 PM

I'm confused; I seem to be getting mixed messages here.
ONe person tells me that the '65 belts have Fc65 on them and that the "MS22003-1" designation is used. The other person tells me that the "MS" was used in the 80's...what's the deal? Which is correct?

computerworks · #5 (**permalink**) 03-08-2006, 01:59 PM

The two are separate, unrelated facts.

I just pointed out that the MS number is on all aircraft style belts. You can find those style belts in aircraft supply catalogs with that MS designation, regardless of who makes them.

The FC number appears to be a date code...so...you seem to have a set of late 80's belts

wcampbell · #6 (**permalink**) 03-08-2006, 02:05 PM

Computerworks,

Any idea on what you think they may be worth (if anything)?