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06-04-2006, 07:58 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP, Keith Craft
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I just took my rears off. Now my car looks more like a Real Shelby CSX 4000 Cobra.  |
06-04-2006, 08:16 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF#0760
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I've seen something that looks like a red ball stuffed in the centers too...
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06-04-2006, 08:34 PM
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: California,
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Cobra Make, Engine: NAF 289 Slabside Early Comp Car with 289 Webers and all the goodies. Cancelling the efforts of several Priuses
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Lets clear this up once and for all! The rear covers were left off because the covers were on the front for a purpose: to prevent dust from getting in the bearings. The rear bearings were not exposed to dust By design, as the fronts were, consequently they (the covers) were not used on the rear. The red "Balls" were actually the dust caps painted red to provide a "Target" for the pit crew to aim for when changing a tire during the heat of the battle, that trick is still used by some of the Cup & Busch teams today. So make a choice, justify it by whatever means you will. They were on the front only for the above reason, no other!
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As you slide down the Banister of Life, may the splinters never be pointing the wrong way 
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06-04-2006, 09:28 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Northport,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham, KMP178 / '66 GT350H, 4-speed
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..late to the party. And, all the answers are correct..
..but..
427's were shipped with all 4 dust caps in place. Factory stills and PR material show the 4 wheels the same, all with dust covers.
...and the knock-offs weren't safety wired, either. 
Rick's correct..the Comp guys may have let them 'fall off' in the rear, because they were cosmetic.
...so, pick your look...either is correct.
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06-04-2006, 09:33 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Northport,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham, KMP178 / '66 GT350H, 4-speed
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Taken in 1966
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06-04-2006, 10:13 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2003
Cobra Make, Engine: Early 427 car
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center caps
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06-04-2006, 10:27 PM
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: Portland,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA FIA, 1964 289->Webers
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Originally Posted by Rick Parker
Lets clear this up once and for all! The rear covers were left off because the covers were on the front for a purpose: to prevent dust from getting in the bearings. The rear bearings were not exposed to dust By design, as the fronts were, consequently they (the covers) were not used on the rear. The red "Balls" were actually the dust caps painted red to provide a "Target" for the pit crew to aim for when changing a tire during the heat of the battle, that trick is still used by some of the Cup & Busch teams today. So make a choice, justify it by whatever means you will. They were on the front only for the above reason, no other!
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Nice shot of the 146 car, Rick. Dont think I've seen that shot before, what is it published in?
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06-04-2006, 11:26 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham, KMP178 / '66 GT350H, 4-speed
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Not all 427's came with rear hub center caps, mine didn't.....
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06-04-2006, 11:33 PM
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Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: Folsom,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 623, 427 S/C Cobra. Ford FE 428 Cobra Jet, Ford Nascar TL 4speed - with a touch of raw; "less is more" theme
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Brent,
Funny now that you mention it, I took mine off about three years ago and just could not get myself to put them back on. Agreed, looks way better to me with no caps at all.
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Western States Cobra Group 1998-2016.
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06-05-2006, 07:22 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Early 427 car
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caps
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06-05-2006, 07:59 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: NAF 289 Slabside Early Comp Car with 289 Webers and all the goodies. Cancelling the efforts of several Priuses
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Not Cobra related but:
In the 60's it was a common practice for Porsche dealers to replace the spare Fuchs alloy ($$) with a steel wheel and every 4th car created a set of wheels to be sold in the parts dept OR individually as a spare......go figure!
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06-05-2006, 01:42 PM
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I guess there was not enough margin in Porches and those poor basturds had to do whatever they could to feed the kids  |
06-05-2006, 01:48 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA FIA, 1964 289->Webers
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YOu know what the difference between a Porsche & a porcupine is? 
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08-05-2006, 10:27 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Alpharetta,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #414 427 s/o w. Shelby Aluminum heads, Edelbrock Performer RPM Intake, Mighty Demon 750, Tremec TKO 600
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Do tell.....
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Originally Posted by Power Surge
Hehe, yeah. I spent a LOT of time and effort on that motor, making sure every nut, every bolt, every wire, bracket, clamp, etc was as correct to an original as I could. Lots of photos, questions, and buying wrong parts . But I am really happy with how it came out. Other than the obvious block difference (it's a 390), the rest of the motor is pretty much exact to an original (save for one or two items I haven't changed yet). |
Power Surge,
Can you share the details on your "original" engine build? It would be interesting and informative to hear about what you found through your research. For example, given my recent trials with blow-by, I'm curious to hear how that was addressed on original engines. Was the only venting the oil recovery tank on the firewall with a line from the rear breather hole on the intake? How did those oil tanks work? Did you just have to empty them, or did the oil run back in to the crankcase?
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08-05-2006, 10:53 AM
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: Palm Coast,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby American CSX 4241 - authentically built
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Power Surge,
Can you share the details on your "original" engine build? It would be interesting and informative to hear about what you found through your research. For example, given my recent trials with blow-by, I'm curious to hear how that was addressed on original engines. Was the only venting the oil recovery tank on the firewall with a line from the rear breather hole on the intake? How did those oil tanks work? Did you just have to empty them, or did the oil run back in to the crankcase?
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I don't have any blow by issues on my motor so I can't say. My motor is vented like original, with the oil fill breather cap, and the rear line going to the puke tank. The puke tank is just a vapor tank, but in the event that the vapor condenses and turns back into liquid oil, one of the lines runs back down to the Aviaid oil pan. That's what the big port on the front of the pan right behind the dipstick fill port is for.
Hope this helps.
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CSX 4241, KMP 357 - sold and missed, CSX 4819 - cancelled, FFR 5132 - sold
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08-05-2006, 02:25 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Alpharetta,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #414 427 s/o w. Shelby Aluminum heads, Edelbrock Performer RPM Intake, Mighty Demon 750, Tremec TKO 600
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Ah ha....I wondered what those other ports were for on the oil pan.
Any ideas where I can get an original style oil puke tank?
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08-05-2006, 02:39 PM
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Ah ha....I wondered what those other ports were for on the oil pan.
Any ideas where I can get an original style oil puke tank?
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Most of the Cobra resto places should sell them. You might be able to buy one from Kirkham as well, since they put them on their cars.
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CSX 4241, KMP 357 - sold and missed, CSX 4819 - cancelled, FFR 5132 - sold
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