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07-11-2006, 10:22 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Northport,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham, KMP178 / '66 GT350H, 4-speed
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"Useless Trivia" for the FIA replica fans...
While doing some research for an article on an early race, I found this little bit of trivial info that may amuse the FIA replica fans..
You always see Coupes and FIA-style replicas built with the "map light" on the outside of the door, to illuminate the meatball numbers...
Well, first, the real cars were only configured with these light for the 12 and 24 hour 'endurance' races, like Sebring and Daytona...and further, they were only used starting in 1964.
In 1963...they cleverly used spare license plate light assemblies to illuminate the numbers... not as pretty, but they did the trick.
These images are from 1963...
Last edited by computerworks; 07-11-2006 at 10:39 PM..
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07-11-2006, 10:29 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX Cars
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Damn, I will have order another set......
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07-12-2006, 12:58 AM
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Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: Boonville,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Rowen Replicar 351C wish it ran :) Anxiously awaiting delivery of my Road Serpent :)
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Great trivia item. Thanks for sharing it.
Rick
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07-12-2006, 06:35 AM
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: centralia,
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Cobra Make, Engine: B&B cobra (sold), Hurricane HMS1002 (sold), Kirkham 289 FIA, (sold) RCR GT 40(sold) SPF GT40 2122(sold) Hurricane HMS2002, (sold) RCR SLC (sold) GTR on the way!
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I am really glad I didn't drill the 3/4 inch hole in my door to install t  he first lights you displayed!
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07-12-2006, 06:41 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Greenville,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 70 Shelby convertible, ERA-289 FIA, 65 Sunbeam Tiger, mystery Ford powered 2dr convertible
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I like the well thought out and hi tech "screen" to protect the radiator from road debris. Wonder how many times a hole in the radiator ended a race before they figured that one out.
Bill S.
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07-12-2006, 06:45 AM
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Hmmmmmmmm... Another detail to add to our latest project  . Would make a nice option.
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07-12-2006, 06:51 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Alvin,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham, 427 S/O
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Thanks Ron, I didn't know that and never noticed it in photos before. I'll have to go back and see if I can find the early lights in some of the books I have.
Jeff
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07-12-2006, 07:44 AM
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But none of the cars shown above are FIA's.
Here's an original FIA:
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07-12-2006, 07:51 AM
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You are correct Bob...they are Sebring cars...
...but I couldn't get the attention of the small block guys if I said, "...for the Sebring replica guys" 
The interesting thing is that the door light was NOT installed on those cars for the majority of races... it's almost like they swapped doors around.
I only see the map light on the cars configured for Daytona, Sebring, Reims and LeMans... all the long races.
Same guys, in short races...no door lamps. |
07-12-2006, 11:38 AM
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I love this stuff!!!! Thanks Ron and Bob for the cool details.
So Allan, you gonna run a 'license plate' light on your door? |
07-12-2006, 07:45 PM
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Ernie,
Why not, I was thinking about adding a trucker set of lights all around the car in yellow. Hahha
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07-13-2006, 11:11 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Plantersville,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Self Built, 427 USRRC, 427FE, Toploader
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Again,
Ron you are always on top of these tidbits that we all love, and with Bob's help we all gain in our look at these babies.
Thanks bunches,
grumpy and the TX gang
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07-16-2006, 11:42 PM
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Ron,
probably only used for night races... ;-)
gonna be cool on Ocean Drive, Miami Beach ;-)
dominik
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07-17-2006, 08:28 AM
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Here's another FIA detail that I've never seen. Look at the wind deflector along the top of the windshield on the driver side. Cool, huh? This photo is in the new Legate book.
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07-17-2006, 08:56 AM
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I think that Dan Gurney's car had that.
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07-17-2006, 12:05 PM
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Also did you note the manf. plate on top of the oil cooler shrouding? |
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