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11-29-2006, 09:18 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Northport,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham, KMP178 / '66 GT350H, 4-speed
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Originally Posted by kris-kincaid
I imagine that by 1991 that 3008 had been redone 3008 times.
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how true...
Here a shot of the nose of CSX3008... hmmm, looks a little like Sal's
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11-29-2006, 11:28 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Sold 3047 & 3002 in 2012
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The lines are correct. The rest of the car was made from scratch. It's a complete re-do by AC under Brian Angliss. Keck had the car just sitting after putting it away wet.
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11-29-2006, 11:31 PM
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Join Date: May 2001
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 184/482ci Shelby
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I think the blue fittings look gay... not that there's anything wrong with that.
From everything I've seen of the originals, I agree with Kris that a variety of connectors were used over the production run.
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11-30-2006, 06:29 AM
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I am corrected!
3008 was owned at the time I saw it by agent from Delaware, I believe and he drove it to Charlotte that year with a friend in support station wagon. Drove through the night in a heavy rainstorm and the car was not "put away wet"-he ran it's ASS off during the SAAC open track events.
It had duct tape on the hoses, cracked seats-you name it-single four SO with turkey pan-a MESS. Was a Viking blue at the time with stripes and meatballs.I'll scan and post if I dig out the pics.
Sal, thanks for the kind words on our block. The rear cap we have now has a rounded edge profile which HELPS, but we have to bash 'em sometimes too. We use Moroso pans but I suspect you have a Canton for it.
Call me or email if you need parts info.
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11-30-2006, 06:56 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Manowar
3008 ...he drove it to Charlotte that year...
...I'll scan and post if I dig out the pics..
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Please do, if you can. Those pictures would be much appreciated.
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11-19-2008, 02:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Power Surge
The setup shown on the picture I posted of my car, is correct.
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hello sal,
reading this old forum and seems that you are the expert. had a question about these oil cooler hole. was there only 1 correct shape (yours)?
i've seen so many different shapes.
what cars came with these holes? you mentioned only S/C cars? but i've also seen them on street and comp cars, even on 289s.
just curious, thanks.
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11-19-2008, 05:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by santij
hello sal,
reading this old forum and seems that you are the expert. had a question about these oil cooler hole. was there only 1 correct shape (yours)?
i've seen so many different shapes.
what cars came with these holes? you mentioned only S/C cars? but i've also seen them on street and comp cars, even on 289s.
just curious, thanks.
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I credit some of my knowledge to many others, but I do like the details.
What oil cooler "hole" do you mean??
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CSX 4241, KMP 357 - sold and missed, CSX 4819 - cancelled, FFR 5132 - sold
See my car at CSXinfo.net here >> CSX 4241
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11-20-2008, 12:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Power Surge
I credit some of my knowledge to many others, but I do like the details.
What oil cooler "hole" do you mean??
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sorry for being unclear. guess it's called the "scoop" on the body front. below the big oval radiator hole?
thanks.
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11-20-2008, 03:37 PM
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These are nice to use...
http://www.setrabusa.com/fittings.htm
The ones in the center of the picture, only in a 90degree version. They pivot so positioning is never a problem.
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12-08-2009, 07:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lineslinger
Hope this helps
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Lineslinger
Do you know where can I get the these lines? I 'm pretty sure mine are -10 though.
Anyone know where to get them?
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05-19-2013, 04:57 PM
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Sal, I am having a problem finding anyone who sells the fittings you have used on your car, would you mind giving me the companies name and phone number please? Cheers redcar
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05-19-2013, 06:54 PM
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Try aeroquip, they make them (lots of people sell aeroquip).
Aeroquip Parts and Accessories - Mobile SummitRacing.com
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06-11-2013, 04:05 PM
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Hi Doug, thanks for the reply, but I can not fittings at Summit that look like Sals, do you have any more ideas where I might look?
Redcar
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06-11-2013, 05:46 PM
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Oil cooler set up
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Originally Posted by Power Surge
The setup shown on the picture I posted of my car, is correct. The oil cooler is female pipe thread. Then a blue hard 90, pipe into the cooler, and -12 on the hose side. Coming off that, it's an AN style screw together fitting. The flats of the fitting are completely flat, as opposed to what some restorers use on these cars, where the wrench flats have a rounded edge to them. Then the hose socket is short, with the small neck and sharp transision to the neck, just like in my pic, as opposed to the long tapered socket that some people use. The fitting is actually a -12 to -10 "jump" fitting. The nut site is -12 and the socket side is -10, but it takes an odd hose that's kind of in between the two.
I spent A LOT of time into the research of this, talking to many people who are knowledgable in this stuff. Some are fellow board members here, some are original car owners. I also have great reference pics of lots of original cars.
The hardest part of finding the truth behind the correctness of these cars, is that most of them have been modified over the years. Even cars that are touted as very original, have had most of the important detail parts changed over the years. Comp cars especially are usually VERY altered from as they came from Shelby, even if it's just from routine racing replacements of stock parts.
BTW, we are putting together a new motor for my brother's Mustang, and using a ManOWar block. This thing is insane. The only thing that sucks is making the oil pan fit the mains in the rear!
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My memory is getting very fuzzy but as I remember my car was configured exactly as Sal indicated with the 10-12 step down at the cooler. I remember thinking that it was a bad idea and would restrict oil flow at the time. I still use the steel hydraulic fittings and fabric covered hose although everything is #12 on the pressure side and #16 on oil tank return and feed. As others have stated those hoses and fittings have been changed dozens of times over the years.
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06-11-2013, 08:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by redcar
Hi Doug, thanks for the reply, but I can not fittings at Summit that look like Sals, do you have any more ideas where I might look?
Redcar
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I purchase fittings of the style you want from vendors who sell Parker brand hydraulic fittings. There other brands, too. The fittings are called JIC, an acronym for Joint Industry Council. They are 37 degree flare fittings and will interconnect with AN adapters and fittings. AN is also 37 degrees.
Here's a place to start. http://www.discounthydraulichose.com...ings_s/107.htm
David
Last edited by 601HP; 06-11-2013 at 08:25 PM..
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09-17-2013, 09:20 AM
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We were just checking search words for our video and found this thread. It might help anyone doing the install. Check out the link here. Remote oil cooler lines and fittings - YouTube
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