Club Cobra GasN Exhaust  

Go Back   Club Cobra > Cobra Talk Areas > Originality Forum

MMG Superformance
Nevada Classics
MMG Superformance
Main Menu
Module Jump:
Nevada Classics
Nevada Classics
MMG Superformance
Keith Craft Racing
Advertise at CC
Banner Ad Rates
MMG Superformance
MMG Superformance
November 2024
S M T W T F S
          1 2
3 4 5 6 7 8 9
10 11 12 13 14 15 16
17 18 19 20 21 22 23
24 25 26 27 28 29 30

Kirkham Motorsports

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 06-26-2007, 08:36 PM
double ugly's Avatar
Senior Club Cobra Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Scottsdale, az
Cobra Make, Engine: Bought an Exact carbon car in TX. Bought a 427 sideoiler with 630 HP
Posts: 1,714
Not Ranked     
Default lots of original Shelby parts on ebay

Go to ebay and search assessories for original shelby cobra. Wipers, tri-wings, etc.
John
__________________
double ugly
The average fighter pilot, despite the sometimes swaggering exterior, is very much capable of such feelings as love, affection, intimacy and caring. These feelings just don't involve anybody else.
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 06-26-2007, 08:42 PM
richsd's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Chicago Northwest Suburbs, IL
Cobra Make, Engine: 427 Cobra re-creation based on Kirkham aluminum body and chassis, Original 1965 Ford 427 Side Oiler and Ford Toploader transmission
Posts: 247
Not Ranked     
Default

Yep all this is being sold by the guy that painted my car.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 06-26-2007, 09:34 PM
double ugly's Avatar
Senior Club Cobra Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Scottsdale, az
Cobra Make, Engine: Bought an Exact carbon car in TX. Bought a 427 sideoiler with 630 HP
Posts: 1,714
Not Ranked     
Default

WOW! Nice car.
John
__________________
double ugly
The average fighter pilot, despite the sometimes swaggering exterior, is very much capable of such feelings as love, affection, intimacy and caring. These feelings just don't involve anybody else.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 07-03-2007, 10:38 PM
mickmate's Avatar
Senior Club Cobra Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Holderness, NH, US of A, NH
Cobra Make, Engine: CSX 4772 old iron FE
Posts: 5,499
Not Ranked     
Default

Just a quick report. Prices compared to Finishlines top quality and OEM stuff. Latches and straps $143 sold for $338, license plate light $26 sold for $127.50, wiper arms and blades $33 sold for $279, Ashtray $49 sold for $112.50, manual $14 sold for $152.50, and almost as ridiculous as the $1200 set of hardware is the two pokey little windsheild escutcheon plates and rubbers in lousy condition $32 sold for $482 dollars. This is absolutely ridiculous and I feel a little better after venting about it.
__________________
mickmate
http://www.actoncustom.com/
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 07-03-2007, 11:04 PM
richsd's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Chicago Northwest Suburbs, IL
Cobra Make, Engine: 427 Cobra re-creation based on Kirkham aluminum body and chassis, Original 1965 Ford 427 Side Oiler and Ford Toploader transmission
Posts: 247
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mickmate
Just a quick report. Prices compared to Finishlines top quality and OEM stuff. Latches and straps $143 sold for $338, license plate light $26 sold for $127.50, wiper arms and blades $33 sold for $279, Ashtray $49 sold for $112.50, manual $14 sold for $152.50, and almost as ridiculous as the $1200 set of hardware is the two pokey little windsheild escutcheon plates and rubbers in lousy condition $32 sold for $482 dollars. This is absolutely ridiculous and I feel a little better after venting about it.
Yes some amazing prices. The gentleman selling these parts is the painter that did the paint for my car. In fact, he was nice enough to give me 2 original Lucas headlights for my car as a gift. He has many original parts and for some has received some prices that are very high. The prices in this current set of auctions was ridiculous but I am not surprized. I am most amazed by the windshild plates and rubber. I do however think that the set of hardware was worth every penny. Not only is it from an original car but includes the vin stamped latch hardware from CSX3342. The best thing for this particular part would be to sell it to the owner of 3342 and I think it would easily bring $1200.
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 07-04-2007, 07:32 AM
mickmate's Avatar
Senior Club Cobra Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Holderness, NH, US of A, NH
Cobra Make, Engine: CSX 4772 old iron FE
Posts: 5,499
Not Ranked     
Default

I'm sure it's not the case but I can buy a stamp set for $30 and make a set of latches worth how much? I do hope that stuff like that finishes up back in the right place, that would almost justify the price I agree. I have heard of mismatched hardware to #'s so that would explain why some of that stuff was out there.
__________________
mickmate
http://www.actoncustom.com/
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 07-04-2007, 07:51 AM
computerworks's Avatar
Senior Club Cobra Member
Visit my Photo Gallery
Lifetime Contributor
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Northport, NY
Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham, KMP178 / '66 GT350H, 4-speed
Posts: 10,362
Not Ranked     
Default

Car-specific items, like those serialized latches...should only go to the rightful owner of that s/n. Any other location will only result in bad karma for the new latch owner.

Most of those prices were really 'nutso'... it reflects the current trends, though.

Rare, original parts belong with the rare original cars.

Having generic 60's vintage stuff on a replica is cool (I should know... ), but...
...it only adds to the fantasy, but does not bestow any particular DNA on the replica.
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 07-04-2007, 08:06 AM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Apr 1999
Location: cleveland, OH
Cobra Make, Engine: CSX4000, 427
Posts: 1,999
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by richsd
---Not only is it from an original car but includes the vin stamped latch hardware from CSX3342. The best thing for this particular part would be to sell it to the owner of 3342 and I think it would easily bring $1200.


Quote:
Originally Posted by computerworks
Car-specific items, like those serialized latches...should only go to the rightful owner of that s/n. Any other location will only result in bad karma for the new latch owner.

Most of those prices were really 'nutso'... it reflects the current trends, though.

Rare, original parts belong with the rare original cars.

Having generic 60's vintage stuff on a replica is cool (I should know... ), but...
...it only adds to the fantasy, but does not bestow any particular DNA on the replica.

I don't think that whether or not CSX3342 has its original latches affects its collector value, possible sale. It's an original car, and whether it has reproduction latches, seats, engine, tranny, wheels, windshield, gauges, battery, etc will affect its value much. If CSX3342 is all original except for its latches, then they may be of value for $1200 to the owner, but I wouldn't be surprised if the owner doesn;t care.
__________________
"After jumping into an early lead, Miles pitted for no reason. He let the entire field go by before re-entering the race. The crowd was jumping up and down as he stunned the Chevrolet drivers by easily passing the entire field to finish second behind MacDonald's other team Cobra. The Corvette people were completely demoralized."
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 07-04-2007, 08:14 AM
computerworks's Avatar
Senior Club Cobra Member
Visit my Photo Gallery
Lifetime Contributor
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Northport, NY
Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham, KMP178 / '66 GT350H, 4-speed
Posts: 10,362
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Anthony
I don't think that whether or not CSX3342 has its original latches affects its collector value...
Not these days, since apparently not having the original body doesn't seem to affect it either......

But, the original serialized parts do enhance it's "originality" to the detailer.
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 07-04-2007, 08:17 AM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Georgetown, TX
Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 210 / CSX 4323
Posts: 61
Not Ranked     
Default

can someone post the link to the latches...I can't find them with a search. thx.
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 07-04-2007, 08:18 AM
computerworks's Avatar
Senior Club Cobra Member
Visit my Photo Gallery
Lifetime Contributor
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Northport, NY
Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham, KMP178 / '66 GT350H, 4-speed
Posts: 10,362
Not Ranked     
Default

...they were part of an assortment of "427 Cobra hardware"

Item: 160130568603
Attached Images
 

Last edited by computerworks; 07-04-2007 at 08:23 AM..
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old 07-04-2007, 10:45 AM
Senior Club Cobra Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Manteca, Ca.
Cobra Make, Engine: None, sold it
Posts: 2,439
Not Ranked     
Default

My question is, if someone other than the owner if CSX3342 is selling the parts off of CSX3342, how did he get them.

Terry
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old 07-04-2007, 10:58 AM
mickmate's Avatar
Senior Club Cobra Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Holderness, NH, US of A, NH
Cobra Make, Engine: CSX 4772 old iron FE
Posts: 5,499
Not Ranked     
Default

Restorer, repainter.
__________________
mickmate
http://www.actoncustom.com/
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old 07-04-2007, 11:03 AM
richsd's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Chicago Northwest Suburbs, IL
Cobra Make, Engine: 427 Cobra re-creation based on Kirkham aluminum body and chassis, Original 1965 Ford 427 Side Oiler and Ford Toploader transmission
Posts: 247
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by tcrist
My question is, if someone other than the owner if CSX3342 is selling the parts off of CSX3342, how did he get them.

Terry
Many years ago he was involved with the restoration and I think also the sale of the car.
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old 07-04-2007, 11:06 AM
Senior Club Cobra Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Manteca, Ca.
Cobra Make, Engine: None, sold it
Posts: 2,439
Not Ranked     
Default

Why would he keep the parts and not restore them and put them back on the car. I guess if the owner of CSX3342 told him to keep them, then that would be his buisness but if I was the owner of an origional Cobra and had it restored of repainted I would not tell them to keep all of the hardware and such. JMHO

Terry
Reply With Quote
  #16 (permalink)  
Old 07-04-2007, 11:10 AM
richsd's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Chicago Northwest Suburbs, IL
Cobra Make, Engine: 427 Cobra re-creation based on Kirkham aluminum body and chassis, Original 1965 Ford 427 Side Oiler and Ford Toploader transmission
Posts: 247
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by tcrist
Why would he keep the parts and not restore them and put them back on the car. I guess if the owner of CSX3342 told him to keep them, then that would be his buisness but if I was the owner of an origional Cobra and had it restored of repainted I would not tell them to keep all of the hardware and such. JMHO

Terry
I believe the car was not being restored for a customer but was owned by the people working on the car and then sold. There were extra parts that were not on the car. I do not know the details but I do know there was some type of disagreement about the extra parts coming with the car during the sale. You would think they should have gone with the car but for some reason they did not. Especially the stamped latches. I could find out the specifics but have not inquired on the details. I only met Doug once when we reviewed the paint for my car. The person that has done the build/restoration work on my car is independent from this person that is the painter. I think the general feeling is that the stamped items should have stayed with the original car without question but I am sure there is some detail to the reason that Doug helpd onto these parts.

Last edited by richsd; 07-04-2007 at 11:17 AM..
Reply With Quote
  #17 (permalink)  
Old 07-04-2007, 02:22 PM
Senior Club Cobra Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Manteca, Ca.
Cobra Make, Engine: None, sold it
Posts: 2,439
Not Ranked     
Default

I guess it is all personal preferance. If it were my car and I was having it restored or if I owned a restoring buisness and restored my own car, I would keep it all together. But that is the way that I would do it. To each there own I guess.

Terry
Reply With Quote
  #18 (permalink)  
Old 07-04-2007, 03:55 PM
Power Surge's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Palm Coast, FL
Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby American CSX 4241 - authentically built
Posts: 2,573
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by computerworks
Car-specific items, like those serialized latches...should only go to the rightful owner of that s/n. Any other location will only result in bad karma for the new latch owner.

Most of those prices were really 'nutso'... it reflects the current trends, though.

Rare, original parts belong with the rare original cars.

Having generic 60's vintage stuff on a replica is cool (I should know... ), but...
...it only adds to the fantasy, but does not bestow any particular DNA on the replica.
I tried to get those original comp wires. Once it passed my price range, my brother tried to be nice and get them for me. Unfortunately, whomever won them wanted them more.
__________________
Sal Mennella
CSX 4241, KMP 357 - sold and missed, CSX 4819 - cancelled, FFR 5132 - sold

See my car at CSXinfo.net here >> CSX 4241
Reply With Quote
  #19 (permalink)  
Old 07-04-2007, 04:12 PM
computerworks's Avatar
Senior Club Cobra Member
Visit my Photo Gallery
Lifetime Contributor
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Northport, NY
Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham, KMP178 / '66 GT350H, 4-speed
Posts: 10,362
Not Ranked     
Default

You did the right thing...as much as I want a set of tan wires too, I just passed on it.

Two reasons:
1. with the concurrent sales, I knew the price would be insane.

2. (more important)... You and I have worked on cars all our lives, right? Have you ever taken a set of plug wires off and tossed them in a box... when they were good? Think about it....

Reply With Quote
  #20 (permalink)  
Old 07-04-2007, 04:21 PM
lineslinger's Avatar
Senior Club Cobra Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: St. Louis, Mo.
Cobra Make, Engine: 427 S.O. Dual Quad / Cobra undecided
Posts: 1,380
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by computerworks
You did the right thing...as much as I want a set of tan wires too, I just passed on it.

Two reasons:
1. with the concurrent sales, I knew the price would be insane.

2. (more important)... You and I have worked on cars all our lives, right? Have you ever taken a set of plug wires off and tossed them in a box... when they were good? Think about it....

Bingo
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 06:15 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
The representations expressed are the representations and opinions of the clubcobra.com forum members and do not necessarily reflect the opinions and viewpoints of the site owners, moderators, Shelby American, any other replica manufacturer, Ford Motor Company. This website has been planned and developed by clubcobra.com and its forum members and should not be construed as being endorsed by Ford Motor Company, or Shelby American or any other manufacturer unless expressly noted by that entity. "Cobra" and the Cobra logo are registered trademarks for Ford Motor Co., Inc. clubcobra.com forum members agree not to post any copyrighted material unless the copyrighted material is owned by you. Although we do not and cannot review the messages posted and are not responsible for the content of any of these messages, we reserve the right to delete any message for any reason whatsoever. You remain solely responsible for the content of your messages, and you agree to indemnify and hold us harmless with respect to any claim based upon transmission of your message(s). Thank you for visiting clubcobra.com. For full policy documentation refer to the following link: CC Policy
Links monetized by VigLink