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06-24-2003, 07:39 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: elizabeth, nj, usa,
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New never assymblied 1967 Nascar 427
I have a new, never assymblied 1967 427 fe Nascar side oiler. 11;1 comp. all original parts,High riser Nascar heads,valves,crank, pistions,cam,lifters, MT valve covers, even have original mallory magnito. Original carbs and linkage, only thing missing is the intake, by mistake when engine was ordered back in 1966, they sent what I think is a medium rise marine tunnel port intake. which won't work on this engine. Last chance to get an original virgin motor, have all part numbers to match nascar specs. Asking $25,000 e-mail sat.al@verizon.net
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06-25-2003, 02:54 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Senoia,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 427SO with big twin autolite inlines on custom intake, jag rear, top loader, wembeldon white, guardsmen blue stripes
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Good luck.........
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06-25-2003, 07:50 AM
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I second that!
Cracker
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06-25-2003, 07:56 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA, Ford 428 SCJ
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Ahhhh, the American Dream!
(emphasis on "Dream")
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06-25-2003, 01:12 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2002
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Cobra Make, Engine: Classic Roadster with 427 center oiler
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Ahh the American DreamER.!!
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06-25-2003, 01:28 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA, Ford 428 SCJ
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I'm also a little confused about the NASCAR lineage.
Did David Pearson use the block as a doorstop?
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06-25-2003, 01:47 PM
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the Nascar motor was the hottest 427 you could buy at the time,second only to the cammer or tunnel port motor. you won't find this motor anywhere, this is one of the last originals.
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06-25-2003, 02:22 PM
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What made it a NASCAR motor?
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06-26-2003, 07:34 AM
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*cricket chirp* *cricket chirp*
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06-26-2003, 07:52 AM
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Heard behind SAI's shop........
rivet rivet
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06-26-2003, 08:19 AM
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What's a "medium rise marine tunnel port intake"?
I think I need me one of those 
--mike
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06-26-2003, 09:12 AM
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06-26-2003, 09:43 AM
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the marine intake has water inlets in the front and at the rear of the intake. tunnel port has round ports on the intake. ford had three stlyes of heads for the 427 series Fe motors, a low riser, medium riser and a high riser, each step allowed more air flow, the high riser produced the most power. some of these engines were refered to as police interceptors. 390/401hp, 406/405hp, 427/425hp.
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06-26-2003, 10:34 AM
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The high rise motors were refered to as Police Interceptors?
And again, what makes a 427 a NASCAR motor?
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06-26-2003, 11:09 AM
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I have an old pontiac 389 block....
It is a NASCAR block also. I know this is true because the valve cover is signed by Richard Petty.
Could we trade?
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06-26-2003, 11:16 AM
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427 NASCAR engine cannot be identified by "looking" at the outside. The difference is "internal". Beefier components, crank, rods, etc. Even there you would have to KNOW what your looking at to determine a NASCAR rod from a standard 427 connecting rod, etc.
And whats up with the Side Oiler vs Center Oiler thing anyway? Like YOU could tell which was which? I bet you would be hard pressed to find ONE person at a "car show" that could tell the difference between the two motors by simply "looking" under the hood!
So whats the big deal here? Bragging rights (and yeah, that has some value, no doubt about it). MORE bragging rights with a NASCAR 427 than a standard 427 SO and less bragging rights with a 427 C.O.
The S.O. engine was preferred because of the superior oiling system delivery to the BOTTOM of the engine first and the camshaft and upper area next. The C.O. delivered to the upper area first and the crank next. Real world, some street and track driving advantage? Virtually zero, in MY opinion. ALL can be built to the same horse power.
IF your going to run the engine at 7000 rpm for HOURS for ONE race, you might want the NASCAR or at least the S.O. IF you still want "bragging rights" and want to save BIG bucks, go with the C.O. and TELL people it's a S.O. (not one in a 100 could tell the difference).
What the hell, now that we know your a LIAR, tell 'em it's a NASCAR 427, there is no way they could say your wrong without tearing the motor down!
When I hear a guy saying HIS 427 is a NASCAR motor my first thought is:
'OK, somebody took this guy to the cleaners, slim chance thats what he really has'. But I will smile and say, "Cool".
Ernie
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06-26-2003, 12:14 PM
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Cool 
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06-27-2003, 07:35 AM
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ernie, you seem very knowledgable about these motors. what part numbers do you need to verify a nascar motor, most of my parts are still in original boxes. when the motor was ordered back in 1966, it was sold from a reptible dealer and sold as a nascar motor, best of everything available at the time, i have had 390/401s,406/405s, 427/425s and the real police interceptors, whether a 390, 406, 427, all had cross bolt mains. Looking at this motor, it looks the same as the others, but like you said, the main difference is the rods and a few other parts, the heads came with port work done. the motor only has one owner since 1966 and that is what he ordered a nascar motor, at the time when he ordered this motor, his brother had a 63 galaxy with a 427/425. they went and ordered this motor which was supposed to be the best they had to offer. whether it is a nascar motor or not, it is diffinitely a virgin motor never assylmbled and i don't think there are many virgins still around.
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06-27-2003, 07:51 AM
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".......it is diffinitely a virgin motor never assylmbled and i don't think there are many virgins still around."
The individual who pays $25 grand for this motor would no longer be a virgin either..............
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06-27-2003, 09:14 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Contemporary classics 3041,sbc 350(have no fear ford guys for there is a FE 428 in the garage waiting to be rebuilt & installed) but for now she is a driver while other projects take precidence.
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ok, I can't take it any more!
AS-SEM-BLY =assembly
AS-SEM-BLE=assemble
AS-SEM-BLED=assembled
Have a good one,
Dan
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