selling CA SPCN to other states, no parts receipts

[FastTrack]

Say I bought a Specially Constructed Vehicle properly titled in CA under SB100 (make "SPCN" model year "0000"). The car does not come with any component parts or labor receipts. If I later sell this to an out-of-state buyer, will most states just accept the CA SPNS title and not demand any parts or labor receipts? I hope I don't have to call each states' DMV to answer this!

Looking at a few states DMV web sites, most say you need the receipts to register it as a SPCN. But sadly they say nothing about transferring title an existing SPCN title car from another state.

If you're wondering why no receipts, the original owner had all the receipts, got the SB100, sold the car via dealer but the new owner for some reason never got or requested the receipts. A few months later the original owner just threw all receipts in the trash.

[PANAVIA]

So what did you get for your $ .?

Confused on what you actually got---

Steve

[mrmustang]

Once the car is titled, it's titled, most other states will still require a safety inspection only when transfering the title into their format. Since the SB100 SPCN has a state issued VIN, all other states wikll accept it at face value.

[Got the Bug]

Originally Posted by FastTrack

Say I bought a Specially Constructed Vehicle properly titled in CA under SB100 (make "SPCN" model year "0000"). The car does not come with any component parts or labor receipts. If I later sell this to an out-of-state buyer, will most states just accept the CA SPNS title and not demand any parts or labor receipts? I hope I don't have to call each states' DMV to answer this!

Looking at a few states DMV web sites, most say you need the receipts to register it as a SPCN. But sadly they say nothing about transferring title an existing SPCN title car from another state.

If you're wondering why no receipts, the original owner had all the receipts, got the SB100, sold the car via dealer but the new owner for some reason never got or requested the receipts. A few months later the original owner just threw all receipts in the trash.

Once the car was registered under SB100, selling or transferring the car to another state should be like any other car. You provide the buyer with a bill of sale, they present it to the DMV with the pink slip and pay any necessary fees.

As Bill mentioned, some states will require safety inspections but you shouldn't need any additional receipts for the build. Let the buyer do their own due diligence regarding what is required in their State.

[RodKnock]

Sounds a lot like a car I know.

You're good with the CA Title Certificate for a future sale to another State. Some States don't even have vehicle titles and cars are sold just with the bill of sale.

Unfortunately, when cars go through dealers, the documentation gets lost in transition.

[Gunner]

I'm not sure. Mine is titled in MA, but so far California has ignored that and is looking at it as a newly presented specially-constructed vehicle. Having the MA title has cut me no corners. Most importantly, I don't think I could bring in a MA vehicle registered (properly) as a 2006 and get an SB100 - for that, everything I've read and been reliably told indicates that you have to go through the process from scratch.

It's possible that a state with engine-year smog rules might accept the CA (or any other reliable state) title with no hassles.

I note that the California process has an out: if you can't prove ownership of all the parts, you can post some sort of vehicle bond against the day when your engine's owner shows up waving a pink slip. Or whatever. That might provide a loophole.

[Ron61]

Gunner,

Bill 1578 was written specifically to cover situations like yours. It allows out of state vehicles to get a SB-100 number, but unfortunately it also uses the same 500 numbers that all people are competing for. The way SB-100 is written it couldn't have been legally covered by SB-100 as the vehicle is a turn key car.

Ron

[RodKnock]

Gunner, the OP's hypothetical is selling a CA SPCNS car to another State, not bringing a car into CA from another State like yours.

[Gunner]

I know, but it's largely the same issue. Every state has its own rules and for every DMV that would yawn and issue new plates based on the CA title, there are others that will probably make the buyer jump through as many hoops as we do. My point was that it will depend totally on the state involved. The OP is best off selling the car as it sits, telling the truth about the paperwork, and caveat emptor.

[RodKnock]

There are a couple PITA States in the Northeast from what I've read here on CC, but I thought that was mostly related to the safety check process, which is part of the titling process, but not smog or receipts related.

[Gunner]

And then there are states, mostly in the South, that have mail-a-check registrations.

[FastTrack]

Thanks everyone, this helps.

I sure wish the DMV web sites in each state spelled this out clearly, but they don't. It's not practical to research the vehicle code in all 49 states

BTW, I have not actually bought this car (or any other car in the same situation) yet.