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http://www.clubcobra.com/forums/show...hreadid=104463 Any car that is currently registered in CA under SB100 can be sold and the registration will transfer to the new owner as smog exempt under SB100. |
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I think here are some Northern Virginians, maybe cousins of Patrick, that moved out to California, not even Northern California: |
He states that the car has a SPCNS sticker with the SB100 exemption on the car. So, someone either got the exemption after purchasing the car in order to legally register it and pass smog requirements, OR the sticker is bogus. My bet is on the former.
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YEP...Year-round Cobra driving is such a pain in the ass. :rolleyes: :MECOOL: :LOL: |
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Maybe not. Did you read this part of his post - ALL of them are telling me that the SB100 that was isssued in 1994 is now called "Certificate of Sequence" and is NOT transferable. They are saying that each new owner must go back through the entire process every time you transfer title. Of course that is providing DMV has any cert numbers left in that particular year. They say if there are no numbers left, you don't get an exemption and register your car until you can get a number in the following year. |
Yup...after reading TWO threads and combining the info, that is what appears to have happened. As noted, the SB100 smog exemption did NOT exist in 1994. State Senator Johannessen (CSX owner) got it passed in 2001...
The SB100 exemption has nothing to do with registration...it merely exempts the designated vehicle from being tested. It is, however, tied to the designated to the vehicle. SPCN numbers are VIN numbers for "specially constructed vehicles" (SPCN), and should never be changed, even with a change of ownership that keeps the car in California. You need to bypass the morons in the local DMV offices and get someone interested in Sacramento. ...or simply go get another SB100 number since, as the threadstarter notes, there are some left for 2010. Sometimes it's better to simply go around the ends than keep plowing up through the middle. ...and really, one thread is enough. Posting two threads is like working for the DMV. :cool: |
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And the rest of you non-Californios...bite us. |
My apologies for starting a new thread on the registration forum. I'm just really frustrated with the morons at DMV and was hoping someone else had one last idea. However, the way that DMV has interpreted the Sequence cert is as I said before. They think it stays with the owner, not the car.
Thanks to everyone for your input. I'm going to have to get a new exemption cert. Thank God there are numbers left. Have fun driving out there in this beautiful weather. |
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No problem...certainly understand your frustration. Just keep at it.
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Are you sure that you BAR sticker says "SB-100" on it or is it just an "Engine Identification" sticker that states your engine information and what "smog" equipment is required to have on it. Mine was first registered in the late 80's- early 90's as a 0000 SPCN and just has a BAR "Engine Identification" sticker. I first registered it in 2005 or 2006 and no problems at all. Also, no smog req when I get my tags every year. My BAR sticker does have some BAR id numbers on it in red color but it is not a SB-100. |
Don't be surprised if when you get to DMV they say all the numbers were gone on the first day of the year.
That's what they told me when I went in last August. I had to fight for two days to get them to call Sacramento and verify that numbers were, in fact, still available. So, you might just end up with a second fight on your hands. |
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No thanks Jamo---I think Ca will continue to bite you for us.
From one of the 49 "third world states" Ron |
There was no such thing as SB100 in 1994. I registered in 1995. At that time, you registered either as the year of the motor or the year of manufacture. Cars registered in 1994 have to get smogged every 2 years. The only exemption would be if you had a 1964 or earlier motor.
You can go to every DMV in the state and they will all tell you the same thing. You need to smog it every 2 years. That label you have is a BAR label, but it is not an SB100. Go get an SB100. |
Seems to me this is not the first time this has been an issue? Non transferable SB100 numbers problems have been mentioned around here before. I'm not sure what causes some SB100's to go through and others have to start over again.
...maybe that was a Calif car sold out of state and then coming back into California, triggers a new SB100 thing? |
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Paul is correct for how replicas were handled in 1994 (ie: pre-SB100 days) - in many cases the BAR allowed the owner to have their replica meet the smog requirements of the "year of block", which was easy to meet if one used a vintage 1960's block. This "loop hole" has been recently closed by BAR for new replicas, but existing replicas should be "grandfathered" in. Regardless, we are all guessing since we cannot see exactly what the sticker says. |
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My CR was first registered in the late 80's - early 90's (no later that 1992 because that was the first time that I saw it) and all it has from BAR is an "Engine Identification" tag on it that does not have SB100 on it anywhere. My title says "0000 SPCN" and I do not have to smog it..
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Terry, most-interesting. What year was the block at that time?
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OK, here's the scoop. It turns out that the BAR label on the car is NOT an SB100. It is just a BAR referee label from 1994. When I bought the car in 2004, the seller told me it was an SB100 label and I took his word for it. So at this point, I am going to go get a sequence number so I won't have to do this again.
However, beware that all 5 DMV offices think the sequence number stays with the owner and not the car. Thank you all for your input. It helped me get to the bottom of it. |
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