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12-09-2013, 11:28 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Sparta,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft 1048
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New Jersey Registration
I'm purchasing a Backdraft cobra from Washington State and It's titled as follows
Year 1965 Make KitV Model Style Series Body Roadster
The engine block code is D4AE-8015-AA8 6A17.
Can I register it as QQ plates?
If not what is the process do I need a full blown safety inspection?
Should I just try and register it as a plane 1965 car?
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12-09-2013, 12:37 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Haven,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft Racing
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Quote:
Originally Posted by genolan
I'm purchasing a Backdraft cobra from Washington State and It's titled as follows
Year 1965 Make KitV Model Style Series Body Roadster
The engine block code is D4AE-8015-AA8 6A17.
Can I register it as QQ plates?
If not what is the process do I need a full blown safety inspection?
Should I just try and register it as a plane 1965 car?
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This question is important before buying a car. Luckily you should be A OK in NJ with the 1965 registration.
You will not get QQ plates, do not try, it will only open you up for a problem that may require you to enter the full NJ process (which you do not want to get involved with). Simply walk in with your title and let them guide the way.
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12-09-2013, 01:36 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Greenville,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 70 Shelby convertible, ERA-289 FIA, 65 Sunbeam Tiger, mystery Ford powered 2dr convertible
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Quote:
Originally Posted by genolan
I'm purchasing a Backdraft cobra from Washington State and It's titled as follows
Year 1965 Make KitV Model Style Series Body Roadster
The engine block code is D4AE-8015-AA8 6A17.
Can I register it as QQ plates?
If not what is the process do I need a full blown safety inspection?
Should I just try and register it as a plane 1965 car?
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Was I not clear in explaining this to you in the past
The car is already titled? Then it gets a like and kind title in NJ
The make " KitV" is your only concern, and may get your cars paperwork pulled by the special titles division on State Street in Trenton. if that happens, then you must go through he "kit car" process in NJ, from scratch. Not impossible, just time consuming........
Can you get QQ plates, sorry, NO, and if you attempt to do so, you risk the forfeiture of your paperwork and your car. Enough said.
Register the car with regular plates, or send in for a set of custom plates, pass inspection to 1965 (or 1974 per the year of your engine block) standards, and be done with it.
Bill S.
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12-09-2013, 03:19 PM
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Location: Sparta,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft 1048
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Easy Bill I'm a newbee and the last car I asked about was titles as a 2006 and that makes a big difference.
Step by Step
1) Title and register it as if it were a standard 1965 car.
2) Take it to emissions inspection and they know to use 1965 or 1974 standards
3) Pay tax on purchase price and Done
- If it gets pulled to special titles do they send me my original title back or do the keep it.
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12-09-2013, 04:49 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Greenville,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 70 Shelby convertible, ERA-289 FIA, 65 Sunbeam Tiger, mystery Ford powered 2dr convertible
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Quote:
Originally Posted by genolan
Easy Bill I'm a newbee and the last car I asked about was titles as a 2006 and that makes a big difference.
Step by Step
1) Title and register it as if it were a standard 1965 car.
2) Take it to emissions inspection and they know to use 1965 or 1974 standards
3) Pay tax on purchase price and Done
- If it gets pulled to special titles do they send me my original title back or do the keep it.
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1: yes
2: Take it to your corner gas station that does state inspections
3: yes
Last question is a 50/50, it all depends on who's desk in Trenton your paperwork lands on.
Bill S.
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02-05-2014, 07:59 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2014
Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance
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Help for Newbie in NJ
Hey guys...getting a new Superformance MkII, engine is 74 block. Anyone have guidance regarding the process to get title, reg and plates? Do I just bring along the purchase agreement & engine build details to DMV? Since it is a new build, what year is the car? (i.e. can I say it is a 1964 Cobra?) Sounds like I may need to go to a specific DMV site for inspection (e.g. Morristown) from reading some of the other posts.
My office is in NY so I guess I can try to register there if it is any easier?
Any advice would be appreciated...
TIA!
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02-05-2014, 08:50 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: 70 Shelby convertible, ERA-289 FIA, 65 Sunbeam Tiger, mystery Ford powered 2dr convertible
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Originally Posted by mos289
Hey guys...getting a new Superformance MkII, engine is 74 block. Anyone have guidance regarding the process to get title, reg and plates? Do I just bring along the purchase agreement & engine build details to DMV? Since it is a new build, what year is the car? (i.e. can I say it is a 1964 Cobra?) Sounds like I may need to go to a specific DMV site for inspection (e.g. Morristown) from reading some of the other posts.
My office is in NY so I guess I can try to register there if it is any easier?
Any advice would be appreciated...
TIA!
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NJ is the place to register your car, not NY. Call the special titles division in Trenton (888) 486-3339 ext. 5064 or (609) 292-6500 ext. 5064 and ask them to send you the "kit car package". Follow the instructions carefully and you'll be driving your car before you know it. Expect to have to trailer the car down to one of the three specialty inspection stations (Asbury Park, Westfield, or Winslow) after you have made an appointment and gotten all of your paperwork in order, again, follow the paperwork to the letter and have all of your receipts in a "build binder". The easier to review and complete your paperwork is, the easier your enhanced inspection will go.
You will not be able to legally title your car in the state of NJ as a "1964" or anything vintage. You can get custom plates for your car, you cannot get historic or QQ type plates though.
Yes, it is really that easy.
Bill S.
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02-06-2014, 08:57 AM
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Thx Bill!
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02-06-2014, 10:20 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Greenville,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 70 Shelby convertible, ERA-289 FIA, 65 Sunbeam Tiger, mystery Ford powered 2dr convertible
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Originally Posted by mos289
Thx Bill!
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I forgot to add, Morristown was flooded in Hurricane Sandy and will not be re-opening any time soon, if at all.
Bill S.
PS: Where in NJ are you located?
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02-07-2014, 09:31 PM
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Car is ready but waiting for the weather to clear up before I pick it up...will probably need to go to Westfield for inspection. I am in warren...
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04-04-2014, 10:44 AM
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Finally got the Trenton paperwork done and scheduled to go to Asbury Park in a couple weeks. Spoke to the guy down there and he seems OK, he gave me a bunch of the things on his inspection checklist. So one item relates to ground clearance. He was saying that I need 2" of clearance imagining that the car is sitting on its rims without tires.
Anyone ever hear of anything like that? I have a slabside so the exhaust system is routed underneath the car - that may be a problem since the muffler is a bit lower than the frame.
Crazy regs...
I am planning on going there anyway and assuming that he will give me a punchlist of stuff to do. Just hope nothing major...my patience is wearing thin
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04-04-2014, 11:51 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Haven,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft Racing
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mos289
Finally got the Trenton paperwork done and scheduled to go to Asbury Park in a couple weeks. Spoke to the guy down there and he seems OK, he gave me a bunch of the things on his inspection checklist. So one item relates to ground clearance. He was saying that I need 2" of clearance imagining that the car is sitting on its rims without tires.
Anyone ever hear of anything like that? I have a slabside so the exhaust system is routed underneath the car - that may be a problem since the muffler is a bit lower than the frame.
Crazy regs...
I am planning on going there anyway and assuming that he will give me a punchlist of stuff to do. Just hope nothing major...my patience is wearing thin
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It's called scrubline. Yeah they will be sticklers about it in Asbury.
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04-04-2014, 12:30 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Greenville,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 70 Shelby convertible, ERA-289 FIA, 65 Sunbeam Tiger, mystery Ford powered 2dr convertible
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Originally Posted by mos289
He was saying that I need 2" of clearance imagining that the car is sitting on its rims without tires.
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Find someone who will lend you a set of 17" wheels for the inspection, you'll do just fine. The week before, go over everything, paperwork, theirs and yours, and the car. Anything you notice, they will, if they notice too much, they will fail your car and you'll start all over again.
Bill S.
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04-05-2014, 08:02 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance
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Thx guys! Appreciate the guidance...stay tuned
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04-18-2014, 10:58 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Everett Morrison, 351C
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My car is titled as a 1991 Everett Morrison. Will it be possible to get QQ plates in 2016?
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04-18-2014, 12:28 PM
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Location: Buffalo, NY USA,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance
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Originally Posted by mrmustang
Find someone who will lend you a set of 17" wheels for the inspection, you'll do just fine. The week before, go over everything, paperwork, theirs and yours, and the car. Anything you notice, they will, if they notice too much, they will fail your car and you'll start all over again.
Bill S.
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So Bill, who do you know who has a set of 17" or 18" spline drive wheels? His car is an SPF MK II with spline drive wires.
If you can't make the clearance needed look at adjusting the leaf springs to raise the ride height for the inspection. You can jack the car up and use a spring clamp to "lock" the leafs in a higher ride height.
Contact me if you need help on how to.
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04-18-2014, 02:31 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: 70 Shelby convertible, ERA-289 FIA, 65 Sunbeam Tiger, mystery Ford powered 2dr convertible
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Originally Posted by Shotm92
My car is titled as a 1991 Everett Morrison. Will it be possible to get QQ plates in 2016?
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No, kit cars are not eligible regardless of the year produced
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04-18-2014, 02:33 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: 70 Shelby convertible, ERA-289 FIA, 65 Sunbeam Tiger, mystery Ford powered 2dr convertible
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark IV
So Bill, who do you know who has a set of 17" or 18" spline drive wheels? His car is an SPF MK II with spline drive wires.
If you can't make the clearance needed look at adjusting the leaf springs to raise the ride height for the inspection. You can jack the car up and use a spring clamp to "lock" the leafs in a higher ride height.
Contact me if you need help on how to.
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Spline drive and not pin drive, that is going to be a tough one. I have no connections in that case.
Bill S.
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04-18-2014, 08:32 PM
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Thx guys...car in shop, will see if my guy can work on clamping springs at higher ride height. Otherwise, will need to go to the custom wheel diameter route and or rework exhaust somehow.
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04-18-2014, 08:34 PM
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Oh, inspection on Tuesday 22nd...stay tuned.
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