New York Registration

[airboat1]

I'm not positive the seller said he thought it was a 1994 engine. It's difficult to see behind the starter motor could it be there?
Steve

[Mark IV]

Originally Posted by airboat1

I'm not positive the seller said he thought it was a 1994 engine. It's difficult to see behind the starter motor could it be there?
Steve

"FE", Windsor, etc. Need to know

[Jim Kellogg]

As far as I remember, the 351W casting numbers are located on or above the passenger side (RH) oil pan rail towards the rear of the block, which is underneath the starter motor. You will still probably need a mirror to read it (hope you can read backwards!).

You are getting close! Soon this will just be a distant memory once you get your Cobra on the road

[Jim Kellogg]

... And yes, it is MUCH easier just to pull the starter motor!

[fjrgary]

rather than go through all of n.y. state bull $hit i registered my era in fla. all u need is a friend or reletive and use their address as your residence. everything was done through the mail, no inspection, no hassle. just go to the fla. auto registration website and get everthing you need. n.y. SUCKS! your auto insurance must be purchased from a fla. broker.

[Tim7139]

Originally Posted by starwolf56

Sounds about right....my inspector said that next inspection might be the same issue but was told by the folks in Albany that it may take a year or two to fix the problems. Anyway glad that's over... drove for gas today..

Do what Rick told you and go with the 8500 lbs weight class. It's what my shop was told a couple years back as the std work around. Quick, easy. Guess I'm driving the fastest truck in the neighborhood.

[airboat1]

I've located the motor casting number hidden behind the starter F4TE-6015-AA7.

[Jim Kellogg]

It apeears that you DO have a 1994 block by that casting#
F=1990-1999 (decade)
4= (year)
F4 = 1994 casting

More info here...
PART NUMBER DECODE


First Character
Year
C=1960
D=1970
E=1980
F=1990
etc.


Second Character
Year in the decade


Third Character
Car line
A=Full size/Galaxy
B=Bronco (70-75)
C=Torino/Elite
D=Falcon (60-69)
F=Outside US
G=Comet (61-68)
Montego (69-76)
H=Med./Heavy Truck
J=Industrial
L=Lincoln(58-60)
M=Mercury
O=Fairlane (62-68)
Torino (69-76)
R=Capri
S=Thunderbird
T=Truck
U=Lincoln(61-up)
V=Lincoln
W=Cougar
Z=Mustang
HM=Holman-Moody
3A635=P/S kit
4000--4599=Rear axle
4600-4999=Driveshaft
5000-5199=Frame
5200-5299=Muffler
5300-5399=Front springs
5310=Spring chart
5400-5999=Stabilizers
6000-9999=Engine ID tag/pulley ID chart
6900-7999=Manual trans-exc. linkage
7000-7299=Manual trans linkage, etc
7300-7499=Manual trans linkage, etc
7500-7999=Clutch
7000-7999=Auto trans - exc. linkage
7000-7199=Auto trans linkage, cooling, etc
7200-7399=Auto trans linkage, etc
7400-7999=Auto trans linkage, etc
8000-8499=Radiator, grill, cooling
8500-8599=Water pump
8600-8999=Fan
8620=Drive belt chart
9000-9299=Fuel tank & lines
9300-9399=Fuel pump, gauge

Forth Character
Series code
A=Chassis
B=Body
E=Engine
M=Motorsports
X=Muscle Parts
Y=Lincoln/Mercury
Z=Ford Parts & Service
9400-9499=Manifolds, t-stat, emission
9500-9599=Carburetor
9500-9999=Carb parts/lists
9600-9699=Air cleaner and related
9700-9999=Choke, accelerator, speed control
10300-10599=Alternator, pulleys, mounting
10600-10999=Battery, instrument cluster
11000-11999=Starter, ignition, headlamp sw
12001-12999=Coil, distributor, plugs
13000-13999=Headlamps, parking ,turn ind.

Hope this helps,
Jim

[Mark IV]

1994 351 "HO" truck block. It should be a roller cam unit.

[Jim Kellogg]

A little difference of opinion on decoding that casting number

I am pretty sure you have a 1994 truck block with the taller lifter galleys, which means it "may" be a roller lifter motor. If not, it should be able to accept roller lifters.

But I am NOT a Ford expert! My many years in the car business was with GM and Toyota, so I will defer to the experts!

Either way, I would use that number. It is a casting number, not a serial number, but as it has been said before, the real purpose of the DMV (NOT NY inspection done at your favorite shop) Inspection is to look for stolen parts and glaring safety issues. I do not think they have ever pulled a starter to double check your numbers, but it is always best to use the actual number, just in case.

Keep the faith! You will be on the road (eventually)
Jim

[STEVE-O]

Originally Posted by fjrgary

rather than go through all of n.y. state bull $hit i registered my era in fla. all u need is a friend or reletive and use their address as your residence. everything was done through the mail, no inspection, no hassle. just go to the fla. auto registration website and get everthing you need. n.y. SUCKS! your auto insurance must be purchased from a fla. broker.

If you do this I hope you never get in an accident.
Insurance companies dont like to see cars having insurance in one state and driven all the time in another.
Rates are different state to state or even city to city.

[airboat1]

I'm updating the status of trying to register my Everett-Morrison Cobra here in good old New York State. After making contact with the VIN Assignment Unit in Albany I prepared my package including application, fee and everything they requested associated with proving ownership. I sent the application on 11/15, I had discussed the application with "Amy" who seemed interested and helpful. I called today following up to find if my application was received, Amy has not been in all week and is scheduled to return this Monday. I had also sent request for registration the Technical Services Bureau also in Albany. Prior to mailing I had talked to a gentlemen in the Tech Service office advising me to send essentially the same information I had sent to Amy to his office. The information was sent on the 15. Today I followed up calling his office only to be advised by someone else I need to send everything to Amy to get the ball rolling. Amy in turn sets up the arrangements for the request for inspection and to expect 6 to 8 weeks before hearing anything. I asked if someone had received my mail in his department and was advised they will call me when they schedule me and cannot advise if my paperwork was received. This was a bit frustrating but I'm optimistic Amy will find everything in order when she receives my information.
I ordered several styles of rubber edge trim for my visors. I have located the purchase receipt showing the engine casting number from the shop that built the engine, they also provided the bill of sale from a scrap yard where the engine block was taken from a vehicle to be scrapped. The bill of sale clearly shows the VIN of the vehicle it was taken from, all of this was done in Florida.

In the mean time the weather has really gone south here in Syracuse. It's probably the best time to go thru this when I am unable to transport the vehicle on an uncovered trailer anyway.

More to follow as I make progress.

Steve

[1795]

Stee,

Be patient and enjoy some turkey. There have been a lot of staff cuts in Albany, so it will probably take a little longer than in previous years, and then there are the holidays. Sounds like you have things in order. Good luck and keep your head above the snow.

[airboat1]

Status on securing my registration:

I completed my VIN application package and released it to Albany early last week. It took a little time to receive the engine information I discovered I required from the original owner and build shop. I had talked to "Amy" in the VIN department, she seemed interested and helpful. I called yesterday to find she is on vacation this week, I'll follow up next week to find if the application with proof of purchase documents of the car including the engine casting numbers and VIN of the vehicle it came from are in order.

I did also speak to an individual in the Technical Inspection Dept. as well and was advised once Amy processes the VIN application it is sent to his department and a letter is issued to me advising what the road compliance requirements are for NYS (already have a copy from Amy) and a date for inspection is set. He said it can as long as 6 to 8 weeks before I hear anything, and I will not be able to check on the status, they will contact me only when they have gotten to my application. So this will put the inspection sometime in January, I'll have to work out bringing the car to them on an open trailer by way of a weigh station to receive a weigh ticket. Hopefully I can contact the local inspection stating in No Syracuse and work out the schedule around the weather here in upstate New York already we received 2 ft of snow this week. I hate the thought of exposing it to highway salt in the air.

Just ordered two styles of rubber edge trim for the visors.

I'll keep you posted on how things progress. Thanks for your help guys.

Steve

[airboat1]

Sorry about the redundancy I failed to move on to the next page to see my initial post was sent.
I can wait on them I just hope there will not be any problems.
Steve

[Bill Bulmer]

I registered mine in Florida, even though my primary residence is NYS. They don't even have an annual inspection down there.

[airboat1]

I called the VIN assignment department in Albany today, they said they had received my VIN application and have set a date for my inspection. I also received a letter over the weekend from the Technical Services Bureau in response to my sending them the completed check list they requested. They said I will have to have a statement indicating the emission control devises are present on the vehicle and the vehicle must be equipped with all emission devises required for the application year of the engine. I have a 1994 351W in it. Several of you have said a "custom" car is exempt from emission requirements, where is this stated so I can refer to it in my argument? What defines a custom car?
I must also have a padded dash and padded visors, the flat face of the dash is padded, the top front rounded edge of the dash is not padded is this a problem? I have ordered 1/2" wide rubber edge trim to fit over the edge of the visors, do the top visors as well as the side visors have to be padded? Will the edge padding be satisfactory or does the entire visor have to be covered with padding?
Thanks,
Steve

[1795]

Steve,

You may be stuck with having to have the emissions that would have been associated with that year engine. My first potential cobra was a car with a 1994 351 in it and I was negotiating with the seller to buy just the roller, he wanted then engine for another car and he lived in Maine, so that I could find an older engine, as I did not want to have catalytic converters, etc.

Look closely at the regulations, I am pretty certain that they specify the year of the engine. I think that I have heard others say that they were able to get away with lower emissions because an inspector said that that size engine was available in years when emission equipment was less stringent. However, I would not count on that.

I have heard of people making cheap cloth sleeves that they put over the visors and then removed after the inspection process was competed. You will also need a reverse light, that can be temporarily wired in and hung from the back bumper or jack point and then removed after the inspection process.

Mark IV may have some more definitive information, as he has been involved with many of these. He is not able to respond right now, but should get back on line in a couple of days.

Good luck.

[sea2jet]

For anyone in NY, I have an ERA with a 1960's 427/Top Loader that has a NY title & registration that is posted in the for sale section. Would be easy to register in NY.

[snapier]

Wow, I must have been lucky. When I took in my Superformance which had a Superformance vin # SP01400 which was also on the Minnesota title. They just looked at the SPO1400 that was stamped on the frame and saw that it matched the Minnesota title and just gave me a yellow NY vin sticker. You also will have to have a money order to pay for the inspection. I do not remember how much it was but the post office was just down the street.