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01-04-2007, 11:54 AM
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I went the non sb100 route for my first attempt. Used a C3AE block which was declared by the smog ref to be out of a 1963 galaxy. All I had to do was make the car pass 1963 smog requirements. Sealed breather system and PCV. No problem. Then came the trouble. You still have to meet the smog sniffer for that year motor. Timing for that motor was to be set to 5 deg BTDC and idle set to 500 rpm. No way I could pass the sniffer. Hell, I could barely keep it running with the cam I am using at that low of an rpm. Jetted as far down as I could go and just could'nt get it. My last resort if I did not get the SB100 title was to change my cam back to the stock version to pass the sniffer. I would have to change the cam back every two years to pass smog. Luckily I got the Sb100.
Another thing I learned; If you are using a ford FE motor and are not going to go the SB100 route, use a C4AE or older block. The C5AE was used up till 1972 in pick-ups. A not so pleasant Smog Ref will know this and make you comply with 1972 smog specs. In other words tons of smog equipment. I was told they are supposed to go with the last year that motor was used in.
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01-04-2007, 01:33 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Sacramento,
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Cobra Make, Engine: classic roadesters ltd, 302, T5
Posts: 318
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Msiff: I am suprised, your story was not relayed to me like that, of course why would I expect the dmv supervisor to know all of this. (I work for government and can say that). Guess I better write down the block number and get the BAR referree to tell me exactly what would be required for a specific engine prior to installing that engine.
But why would the lady tell me to change motors afterwords if they require a smog inspection every two years even if you did install a pre-75 motor. She seemed to indicate to me that once finished with bar and determined I had a pre-smog test required motor then I would not have to ever go back.
Thanks for your input. Hray
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01-04-2007, 02:32 PM
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Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: SF Bay Area,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF #1019
Posts: 1,657
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Hray,
You're almost 100% correct. For an SPCNS you have two smog requirement choices:
1. Smog by year of block or year of build - The vehicle must meet visual requirements and pass the snif test, upon initial title and during the every biannual smog test. Since the vehicle does not have a model year of 1975 or old, it is not exempt from biannual smog testing.
2. SB100 - Smog exempt forever.
Hope this helps,
Randy R...
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01-04-2007, 04:44 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Syracuse,
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Cobra Make, Engine: BDR 228, Roush 342R, 457HP/428TQ, modified AOD
Posts: 1,378
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dinobyte
I just reported this to Ebay so hopefully they will pull the add.
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Now listed as bidding has ended and 0 bids.
I guess the famous con-man Joseph ("Paper Collar" Joe) Bessimer was wrong when he said "There's a sucker born every minute...and two to take 'em."
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Nolite id cogere, cape malleum majorem - Don't force it, get a bigger hammer.
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01-04-2007, 05:47 PM
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2007-364
Woo Hoooooooooooooooooooo
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01-05-2007, 12:49 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Sacramento,
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Cobra Make, Engine: classic roadesters ltd, 302, T5
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Thanks everyone: I guess I really did need that sb100.
and I guess I better count my lucky stars, 4 years ago I bought a spcns 1931 ford phaeton, titled as a 1974 spcns since that was when it was first title. Upon purchase I never had to smog it and have not since, maybe they grandfathered in the spcns titled prior to some specific date.
HRay
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01-05-2007, 04:18 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Morgan Hill,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF 2293, Roush 427R-228
Posts: 298
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hray
Thanks everyone: I guess I really did need that sb100.
and I guess I better count my lucky stars, 4 years ago I bought a spcns 1931 ford phaeton, titled as a 1974 spcns since that was when it was first title. Upon purchase I never had to smog it and have not since, maybe they grandfathered in the spcns titled prior to some specific date.
HRay
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I may be off here but isnt a '74 anything smog exempt? I thought I'd heard something about 30 years old becomes exempt? I might be off base, but that may be the source of disagreement.
Daryl
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01-05-2007, 04:44 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Roseville,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 427 Unique Roadster, FE by FE Specialties, 470hp, Top Loader, 3:31 Jag
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dlang14
I may be off here but isnt a '74 anything smog exempt? I thought I'd heard something about 30 years old becomes exempt? I might be off base, but that may be the source of disagreement.
Daryl
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Vehicles '74 and older are exempt from smog requirements. The 30 year rule is, unfortunately, a myth.
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01-07-2007, 06:13 PM
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Location: fremont california,
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Oh What A Day
got to fremont at 5:30, sat around till 6:30 and second Cobra guy showed up,
was 1 st guy threw door at 8 am -looked over paper work and started calling
at 8:10 got threw at about 9 am ,actually said they where sorry for keeping
me waiting -was on my way by 9:15 "thank the lord" !!! see ya tom was #242
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01-07-2007, 09:03 PM
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Location: Modesto,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance with 460
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Got to Modesto DMV at 7:15 and was second in line for SB100 and as it turns out, only two of us total, at least up until I left at 8:20 with #110. I had gone in several weeks before the end of the year to make sure they knew what to do and who to call, even had the Sacto supervisor's cell phone number just in case. And as for that idiot trying to sell the SB100 number, let's find out where he lives and "pay him our respects". It is crap like this that ruins a program that may not be the best, but right now it's all we have.
Jeff
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01-16-2007, 03:21 PM
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: Glendale,
CA
Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft #395 from Vintage Motorsports; Valley Ford Specialist 487 FE with a TKO600
Posts: 498
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Do you have your DMV Paperwork yet?
Has anyone received their official paperwork from the DMV after the SB100 was given to them on January 2?
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01-16-2007, 03:53 PM
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they mailed out last Thursday according to the gal at DMV Sacramento. She called me and let me know on Tuesday that My paperwork was missing the VIN # and I needed to fix it by Wednesday because she would be mailing Thursday.
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01-16-2007, 09:31 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Bullhead City,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX4815
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Mine came today!
Mine was in the mailbox today when I got home!
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01-17-2007, 10:07 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Morgan Hill,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF 2293, Roush 427R-228
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mine was in the mailbox yesterday as well. Very underwhelming piece of paper all things considered. Made my appointment with the BAR for next wednesday, now I'm just hoping it's warm enough to go....
Daryl
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01-17-2007, 02:43 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Gilroy,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF 2291, Whipple Blown & Injected 4V ModMotor
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Mine came 1/16
Mine came in Tuesday's mail. Envelope looked very official, as Daryl said the paperwork was not impressive .... other than the presence of the black box with the Sequence Number and the rather large DMV Sertified Documents Stamp.
Amazing how such an insignificant looking piece of paper can raise such anxieties. Really glad I have it. (edit->)
Ed
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01-18-2007, 11:40 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: So Cal,
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Cobra Make, Engine: FFR Daytona Coupe Road Racer, 351W (SOLD)
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got mine tuesday
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01-18-2007, 01:52 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Oxnard,
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Cobra Make, Engine: superperformance, 427 side oiler
Posts: 178
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Did not have mine as of yesterday's mail.
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01-21-2007, 04:12 PM
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Did not have mine as of Friday mail.
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01-21-2007, 05:03 PM
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Location: fremont california,
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The Car God Delivered The Goods
my sb100 cert can on thursday,#242 "all that ends well -is well"
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01-22-2007, 12:19 AM
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Location: Modesto,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance with 460
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got mine... so this is what all the fuss is about? Looks like I could almost copy this... hmmm just kidding
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