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02-17-2009, 01:07 PM
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Maybe the reason the guy was skin & bones with little teeth! Was the project sucked the life out of him?.....i2f
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20mph is not fast, unless you are doing it in a 3/2, 1000sq. ft. house on 10 ft. waves! 
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02-17-2009, 04:14 PM
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No, it's a left hand drive model. The right hand fell off. 
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02-17-2009, 08:17 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: 90% of a 428 friggin SCJ Engine!
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Looks like Coupe Chuck has fallen off the face of the planet. Got any info?
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02-17-2009, 10:06 PM
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I had an AOL email from Chuck in regard to progress on my own car [or lack off  ] last year, whats the deal with AOL, do their emails still work ? --or did the whole lot go missing? I havent tried to contact him recently, others here might have done so!
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02-18-2009, 05:10 AM
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Metal Shaping
Hi guys,
I ran across this site while looking for Chuck's Daytona build. Dang I hate AOL.
Anyway, if I can help with any metal shaping questions I'll be glad to.
Another source for metal shaping knowledge is http://MetalMeet.com Lots of good info over there.
I'm currently building an art deco roadster but a Daytona is in my long range dreams for the next project. 
I did not build a traditional buck but wish I had.
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02-18-2009, 01:23 PM
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Now there is a third option which is to build the frame and then order a Kirkham body from Hawk cars. Already attached to a small amount of tubing. I think the body is about $13,000 plus freight from the UK. $13,000-$5,000 in tools starts to make a little sense. But there's something about having an English Wheel, a sheet of aluminum, and some beer. Always leads to something.
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02-18-2009, 06:46 PM
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Now there is a third option which is to build the frame and then order a Kirkham body from Hawk cars. Already attached to a small amount of tubing. I think the body is about $13,000 plus freight from the UK. $13,000-$5,000 in tools starts to make a little sense. But there's something about having an English Wheel, a sheet of aluminum, and some beer. Always leads to something.
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But why would Kirkham sell the body sans the frame? (when they get 50K for the combo)?
This IS intriguing. Course, there are the seats and everything else that will drive you nuts. Unique sells a full up roller frame for 8000. (I have the engine and transmission) Tell me more. Beer is still in the equation.
Mike
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02-18-2009, 06:54 PM
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Now there is a third option which is to build the frame and then order a Kirkham body from Hawk cars. Already attached to a small amount of tubing. I think the body is about $13,000 plus freight from the UK. $13,000-$5,000 in tools starts to make a little sense. But there's something about having an English Wheel, a sheet of aluminum, and some beer. Always leads to something.
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Their website say 17000 euros, $1=0.8 Euros = $21,250 for a body.
Thought your numbers were too good to be true! Looks like somebody already got into the beer!
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02-18-2009, 06:58 PM
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OR, were you refering to the 10,000 Pound price ($1=0.7 pounds) sans the VAT? That would come to $14,285. Do US buyers NOT pay the VAT?
What are these anyways? Bodies that do not pass muster with Kirkham? Why does not Kirkham do the same here?
Tell me more!
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02-18-2009, 07:35 PM
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Just guessing here but Poland is a lot closer to GB that the USA and there
may be something with tariffs? that may make a big difference.
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02-19-2009, 09:52 PM
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I dunno Flip, but someone comes in here and says you can pick up a Kirkham body for 13k and shipping and it is interesting... but not true.
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02-20-2009, 08:04 AM
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Kirkham, I believe, sells body-only units so that people with other cars can re-body theirs with a Kirkham shell. I'm sure I heard or read that somewhere. That would open up some very interesting possibilities.
Paul 
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02-20-2009, 08:51 AM
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My problem with them selling their bodies to just anybody, is someone that put their body on a bad built roller, would start telling people that it was a Kirkham. Kirkham might get a bad rap on their product. That would be my concern if I was Kirkham.
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02-20-2009, 08:57 AM
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Well, if you look at their site, they do offer "phased" buying. But they do not price the body shell alone. Unique stop selling the shell only option for simialr reasons. Used to be, you could build a frame and order the shell. No more.
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02-23-2009, 02:04 PM
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Okay, I probably missed it in the discussions so bear with me if so.
If a guy were to build his own roadster/coupe/GT40/ etc... body out of aluminum, what guage and grade of aluminum would you use? What do the Kirkhams use?
Just curious, not that I'm trying to make a change of professions here or anything, but...... 
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02-23-2009, 02:18 PM
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I think that the originals were made from aluminium alloy sheet of 0.062". That's 16 swg (standard width gauge), meaning that 16 thicknesses of the sheet make up a 1" thickness, if you see what I mean. 
Paul
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02-23-2009, 02:33 PM
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Per the Kirkham website, the Kirkham bodies uses an aircraft alloy that is stronger, a bit thicker (0.059" compared to 0.050"), and more dent resistant than the original aluminum used in the 1960’s.
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02-23-2009, 02:49 PM
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According to the guage chart I have, .059 in steel sheet is 16 guage, .057 in aluminum sheet is 15 guage.
Still no idea what grade? T6- 6061 possibly?
Bob
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02-23-2009, 03:00 PM
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02-23-2009, 03:17 PM
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According to the guage chart I have, .059 in steel sheet is 16 guage, .057 in aluminum sheet is 15 guage.
Still no idea what grade? T6- 6061 possibly?
Bob
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3003-H14 for formable/weldable car body panels in USA, Eastern Europe have their own metal designations.
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