CSX4158 For Sale, but Salvage due to Flood - Page 4

RodKnock · #61 (**permalink**) 01-14-2010, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Excaliber

Seems to me Kieth was offering a similiar "modern FE" build for about $10,000 less than that recently.

KC has a 390 advertised on his website for $12K, but that obviously wouldn't include a date coded 427 S/O block.

Again, I wanted to reduce the weight on the nose and of the complete car. I think getting a modern alloy block with a 100-125 lb weight reduction, priority main oiling, improved head sealing, etc. was worth the extra $7,000 difference, at least according to the two KC engines listed on his website.

Anthony · #62 (**permalink**) 01-14-2010, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RodKnock

Vintage blocks have got to be around $5,000 +/- and a Shelby aluminum block is essentially the same price. The CSX block adds less than a $1,000 to an FE build.

I agree with Mickmate. I started to look around for a vintage block, but: a) couldn't find a good one, and if you did, it was the price of a new alloy block, and b) the weight loss on the front end is/was crucial to me.

I think the price of vintage blocks has decreased with the introduction of the iron genesis blocks, also with the aluminum shelbyand pond blocks. I'm guessing an original block is somewhat close to an iron genesis block in price, but the genesis has thicker cylinder walls, and I believe is still 1965 date coded.

I'd get the iron genesis, or aluminum pond/shelby instead of an original block at the present time.

RodKnock · #63 (**permalink**) 01-14-2010, 04:13 PM

I need to clarify my comment earlier which is quoted by Anthony. When I said the CSX block adds about $1,000 to an FE build, I meant to an FE build with the aluminum Pond block. Sorry about that.

Just using the KC prices, an FE build with a Pond block is $17K versus the 390 FE build at $12K.

khansmith · #64 (**permalink**) 01-14-2010, 04:29 PM

Snake Hunter:
I like your view on the situation: great story to go with the car. I think that these stories also have great names as well. You should have a contest. My vote is to call the car/story "The Water Moccasin"

snakehunter · #65 (**permalink**) 01-15-2010, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by khansmith

Snake Hunter:
I like your view on the situation: great story to go with the car. I think that these stories also have great names as well. You should have a contest. My vote is to call the car/story "The Water Moccasin"

Sounds good to me...license plate wtrmksn?

Any other ideas?

I need something that goes with mud =)

IMO I'm looking forward to trying the alum block, both for weight savings (the car may see some road course time if all goes well) and the modern technology.

Imagine finding a virgin SO block, then always wincing every time you put the pedal down for fear you're going to ruin a piece of history. I would, at least at first. Our 67 Fairlane has a non-original, 70's built 427 medium riser and I worry enough about breaking it.

snakehunter · #66 (**permalink**) 01-15-2010, 08:33 PM

Does anyone know anything about the genesis aluminum FE blocks? I've not heard anything good yet

RodKnock · #67 (**permalink**) 01-15-2010, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by snakehunter

Does anyone know anything about the genesis aluminum FE blocks? I've not heard anything good yet

There's plenty to hear about the Genesis iron blocks on the FE Forum, but in terms of Genesis aluminum blocks, I haven't heard of anyone running them.

tkb289 · #68 (**permalink**) 01-16-2010, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by khansmith

Snake Hunter:
I like your view on the situation: great story to go with the car. I think that these stories also have great names as well. You should have a contest. My vote is to call the car/story "The Water Moccasin"

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Originally Posted by snakehunter

Sounds good to me...license plate wtrmksn?

Any other ideas?

I need something that goes with mud =)

IMO I'm looking forward to trying the alum block, both for weight savings (the car may see some road course time if all goes well) and the modern technology.

Imagine finding a virgin SO block, then always wincing every time you put the pedal down for fear you're going to ruin a piece of history. I would, at least at first. Our 67 Fairlane has a non-original, 70's built 427 medium riser and I worry enough about breaking it.

snakehunter ...

Here are a few vanity plate ideas ... I am sure there are more to follow!

WATRSNK

WTRSNKE

WATRCSX

MUDSNKE

MUD PIT

CSX MUD

MUD CSX

GA MUD (the car was from Georgia ... correct?)

427 MUD

MUD 427

WASH ME

FFR428 · #69 (**permalink**) 01-16-2010, 09:51 AM

Robert Pond makes a nice aluminum 427 block. Shelby as well but it's a little more. Genesis did make a few aluminum blocks but their gig has been mostly iron blocks. Buy one from a good vendor like Keith Craft, George Anderson, Barry Rabotnick and the likes. They sort the good from the bad and fix the quirks these blocks all have. It would be wise to buy pistons and rotating assy from them so everything can be fit and blueprinted/balanced for assy if you still need all those items. JMO.

brobehr · #70 (**permalink**) 01-16-2010, 10:19 AM

427MUDR

brobehr

snakehunter · #71 (**permalink**) 01-18-2010, 11:38 AM

Awesome ideas. I love GA MUD and WASHME...those would be both good inside jokes not everybody would get.

I always wanted a cobra with a GUMBALL license plate too, and here in Cincy we have 'concrete river' similar to the LA Basin in Gumball Rally. Now if I can only find a Daytona ragtop for photos... =)

I'm leaving tomorrow AM for Atlanta, will post pics when I can. Wish me luck!

rustyBob · #72 (**permalink**) 01-18-2010, 01:06 PM

Snakehunter.....

how about.........UNDRWTR.........or..........SUBMRGD. .........or..........CNTSWIM

tkb289 · #73 (**permalink**) 01-18-2010, 01:49 PM

More for the list ...

similar to rustyBob's

CSXSWIM

SWIMCSX

=========

Or ...

DEEPEND

RIVRSNK

H2O CSX

CSX H2O

NOAHCSX

NOAACSX

rustyBob · #74 (**permalink**) 01-18-2010, 02:28 PM

what about........427SANK

that could read 427 sank (that sank)or 427 SA(shelby american)NK (snake)
or another one CSXSANK.........or....SNKHNTR..............

snakehunter · #75 (**permalink**) 01-21-2010, 08:32 AM

made it back in one piece and the car is much better than expected. They sure know how to use a forklift down there.

Will post pics asap

Love the tag ideas. I'm thinking UNDRWTR....but only if we end up with way too much money in it! If only I could fit SUNKEN TREASURE onto a plate.

lovehamr · #76 (**permalink**) 01-21-2010, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by snakehunter

made it back in one piece and the car is much better than expected.

Now that's good to hear! BTW, my vote would be WTRSNK or MOCSIN.

Steve

snakehunter · #77 (**permalink**) 01-21-2010, 12:09 PM

can't think...bouncing jumblies distracting me...

RedBarchetta · #78 (**permalink**) 01-21-2010, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by snakehunter

can't think...bouncing jumblies distracting me...

Like moths to a porch light.

snakehunter · #79 (**permalink**) 01-26-2010, 09:09 AM

Sorry to keep you all waiting. Here's the preliminary shots from picking it up and getting it up on the lift.

Believe it or not, they move these cars around with huge forklifts with 15' long forks...And they're actually pretty gentle. I was sure they bent an a arm or something but there were only a couple chips in the paint on the frame tubes...

The only other damage was a trunk lid that was bent sideways and wouldn't latch. Looks like the trunk prop froze and someone forced it. About 10 minutes of work got it back in place.

Of course it rained for a little bit on the way home...

RedBarchetta · #80 (**permalink**) 01-26-2010, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by snakehunter

A Lamborghini Muira AND a Countach (nevermind the 1st gen Camaro, the turbo Porsche and the 2nd gen Camaro/'Vette??)? Please don't tell me these are yours, too!
Daddy, I finally found you!

The CSX doesn't look all that bad on the outside. Staying tuned...

-Dean