Trying to swing purchase CSX4000/6000

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by lovehamr

Getting past all the ethics questions etc. This is one butt f****** ugly car!!



To quote the immortal Clint Eastwood; "Anybody who'd paint a car like that, a color like THAT aught to have his ass removed!"



Now back to the regularly scheduled banter...........

Steve

Lambo Verde Green/Lambo Orange. Only a color a mother could love. The orange and green SPF's have been there a looooong time. If you could get those SPF's for a nice low price, you could always repaint it.

[SP01715]

My advice to the OP is go look at as many cars as you can. See what kind of dealer support you will get with the diffent brands and buy what you think is the best for you. If I would have made my choice based on opinions from this forum, I would probably still not have made a choice. I have been very happy with my car and dealer support (from both SPF & Roush).

[madmaxx]

I was told that for every new SPF chassis sold shelby gets $1K.

I am still having a hard time getting my arms around someone who has never owned a Cobra going to a $100k plus one before they know how raw they are UNLESS you are just RICH. I like them though because I am the one low balling them when they burn their legs, the garage stinks like gasoline, their big bellies bump the steering wheel, then worse their wife burns her legs blah blah blah

Originally Posted by WardL

What a great thread! Does anyone know how much SPF prices went up after they signed the licensing agreement with Shelby? Seems like you could figure how much they paid for the license with that. I would really like to know how the list price has changed over the years on the SPF.

[patrickt]

Nobody should buy one of these cars before they have gained an appreciation for the subtleties that distinguish them. You absolutely, positvely must be able to spot an FFR's rear, know the difference between pedals that come up from the floor or down from the top, windshield angles, wipers that point in a different direction, radiators that are angled or straight up and down, cowl curvature, and so on and so on. Only after appreciating the differences can you decide whether they mean anything to you. Buying something though before you even know what it is you're buying doesn't make a lot of sense... but it happens every day.

[dcdoug]

I would be willing to bet that the Cobra is the most purchased car by people who have:

1) Never been in one
2) Never driven one
3) Don't know even the major differences between manufacturers, let alone subtle differences.
4) Most crashed car in shortest amount of time post-purchase
5) Most fatalities in shortest ownership duration

[patrickt]

And my post wasn't meant to attach any importance to one particular difference or another, you just owe it to yourself to learn about them before you buy them. The wiper orientation probably doesn't matter to 99% of the people on this board (including me) -- but it does to a few. Some very learned Cobra fans prefer the FFR rear to the original's look; that's fine, so long as you make that decision on an informed basis. Pedals that don't come up from the floor bug me, while an aluminum shell really doesn't matter much to me at all -- most of the members on this board would take opposite positions on that stuff. A slanted radiator with dual pushers is something I adore; others couldn't care less about either of those two items. But if you haven't seen them, touched them, assessed their importance to you, and then dismissed the ones that have no personal merit then you're just setting yourself up for a dissapointment as you become a little more "edumucated" on Cobras (and then you have to go to the trouble of doing it all again).

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by madmaxx

I am still having a hard time getting my arms around someone who has never owned a Cobra going to a $100k plus one before they know how raw they are UNLESS you are just RICH.

I bought a Kirkham, my first Cobra, and very expensive, in 2007. I have no plans to ever sell it.

Of course, if a very nice person, with a 1962 Ferrari GTO or California Spyder, wants to trade me even up, then...well...you know.

EDIT: Oh, and I never drove or smelled one or even played with the wipers before I bought it. Max, please don't put your arms around me either.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

EDIT: Oh, and I never drove or smelled one or even played with the wipers before I bought it. Max, please don't put your arms around me either.

Yes, if you buy the top-of-the-line car you're going to like what you get (because it has pretty much everything). But you might not like what you pay....

EDIT -- Don't make me mention the thread of the one who must not be spoken of....

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by patrickt

But you might not like what you pay....

Who does? There are no free lunches.

Everybody knows the price of everything, but the value of nothing.

[madmaxx]

You nailed it!!!!! Number 6 would be, the least driven and quickest sold car they ever owned.

Originally Posted by dcdoug

I would be willing to bet that the Cobra is the most purchased car by people who have:

1) Never been in one
2) Never driven one
3) Don't know even the major differences between manufacturers, let alone subtle differences.
4) Most crashed car in shortest amount of time post-purchase
5) Most fatalities in shortest ownership duration

[dcdoug]

Originally Posted by madmaxx

You nailed it!!!!! Number 6 would be, the least driven and quickest sold car they ever owned.

Since we are making a list, you probably need to add:

never heard (loudest - didn't know you needed to wear ear plugs)
never smelled (I love your eau d'petrol cologne, very nice)

[rodneym]

Definitely a No. 6

There's a beautiful Kirkham for sale about 2 miles from me. He bought it used but it's low mileage and sweet. He only put 300 miles on it in a year, and I'm fairly certain that's because he drove it home!

[Excaliber]

Well if you buy a Kirkham or a CSX there is a good chance "your done", you pretty well nailed it right there.

Buying almost anything else could lead to reservations like "I coulda, woulda, shoulda."

Still, even with the BEST and the ideal options there is still one HUGE unknown. Will you actually drive it or will it sit in the garage 99% of the time? You can make a strong case for buy cheap, try it, see if you like it first.

[rustyBob]

Knowing what i know now,if i where going to do it again, and buy another car....
i would not buy a CSX...to much money for a name that ment something
50 years ago.......
SPF and Backdraft are out because they arent made in the USA....
Kirkham.......great car,well built just a little over my price point....
Hurricane,B@B,Lonestar,ERA,Shell Valley/Midstates and some i dont remember there names are all small US companies that i would rather do business with
than to send my dollars overseas and you can buy everything from a
basic kit to a full on driver built the way you want and at a price that most people can afford......i would rather build my own car bacause i enjoy working with my hands but if someone dosent have the knowledge/ability to build then buy one already built.
So is my car better than yours ...NO...its just different than yours.....
Dont get mad and throw stones or give the one finger salute to me....
this is my opinion.........not yours........

[Got the Bug]

Originally Posted by rustyBob

Knowing what i know now,if i where going to do it again, and buy another car....
i would not buy a CSX...to much money for a name that ment something
50 years ago.......
SPF and Backdraft are out because they arent made in the USA....
Kirkham.......great car,well built just a little over my price point....
Hurricane,B@B,Lonestar,ERA,Shell Valley/Midstates and some i dont remember there names are all small US companies that i would rather do business with
than to send my dollars overseas and you can buy everything from a
basic kit to a full on driver built the way you want and at a price that most people can afford......i would rather build my own car bacause i enjoy working with my hands but if someone dosent have the knowledge/ability to build then buy one already built.
So is my car better than yours ...NO...its just different than yours.....
Dont get mad and throw stones or give the one finger salute to me....
this is my opinion.........not yours........

You can buy a Cobra made in America, but everything else you buy (day to day) is made in China. Start buying 100% American made and let me know how that works out for you.

[Excaliber]

Well hey, it's still a worthy goal, don't give up, get American when and where you can at least!

[Got the Bug]

Originally Posted by Excaliber

Well hey, it's still a worthy goal, don't give up, get American when and where you can at least!

Agree. I try...doesn't always pencil out but I try.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by Got the Bug

You can buy a Cobra made in America, but everything else you buy (day to day) is made in China. Start buying 100% American made and let me know how that works out for you.

The car may be molded and assembled in the USA, but what about the steel and fiberglass to construct the car? Are all the workers at the USA factories American?

As said, nice goal, but not going to happen.

[PANAVIA]

I bought my SPF roller for 35K and My CSX roller for 42K . both new.

a lot of times it is about being right place at the right time.

The CSX has a lot of history and items that are direct copies of the original items, and a lot of things that are better than the were in 1965.

Things that drive me nuts on my CSX.

1. flat floors in cockpit
2.flat head screws ( their extensive use )
3. the trunk configuration
4. battery configuration
5. wiring
6. shape of trans tunnel
7. wiring tags made out of scotch tape
8. wiring connectors crimped on and not soldered or heatshrinked.

Things that drive me nuts with my SPF
1. wiring
2. paint seems to chip easily.



Steve