CSX Dealer Cost? - Page 2

RodKnock · #1 (**permalink**) 02-23-2010, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Allan A

Rod,

It is obvious you really do not know the CSX cars, so when you do let's talk.

Allan

You're right, I'm ignorant, but it sure is bliss.

RodKnock · #2 (**permalink**) 02-23-2010, 08:21 PM

If you can afford the $15,000 major service, then get the 360 Modena Spyder, but make sure it's RED.

"Red, red, I want red, there's no substitute for RED."

Sammy Hagar.

PANAVIA · #3 (**permalink**) 03-01-2010, 12:09 AM

I am the buyer of the CSX at the low point of western civilization. 41.9K, 1.8K to ship it cross country.. so I am in for 44. (roughly).

I have seen the same car for sale @ 54K -

CSX: There are lots of things that are great on the car, and lots of things that are not. ---but then again the original cobras were kinda peach-cobbler in places.
when I am done with my CSX it will work well and drive well. It may not be the fastest, or have the most power, but everything will work well.

As for finding out the wholesale cost - this information could be misused and screw the whole thing up.

Example; the CSX car has a whole page of options that add up into the (possibly) thousands.

I do know that my dealer lost money on my car. (on my CSX) it was sold at his advertised price, so i cant feel to bad about it.

If you want Cobras to exist, you have to buy them and service them with businesses that are a for-profit enterprise.

WARNING: If you grind a business too far on its cost basis to provide you a custom product, they are probably not going to be there very long.

as far as CSX cars , - the main thing I like about the CSX (glass) is I can lean on the fenders (hehehehe)

Right now , I am removing the HST provided wiring ( with the bilingual scotch-tape tags) and replacing it with the same Kwik-Wire harness that they use on the KMP cars , with a few mods.

I think we need an *electrical* thread on this board. --that way blas and i can focus our energy.

Steve

Got the Bug · #4 (**permalink**) 03-01-2010, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PANAVIA

I am the buyer of the CSX at the low point of western civilization. 41.9K, 1.8K to ship it cross country.. so I am in for 44. (roughly).

I have seen the same car for sale @ 54K -

CSX: There are lots of things that are great on the car, and lots of things that are not. ---but then again the original cobras were kinda peach-cobbler in places.
when I am done with my CSX it will work well and drive well. It may not be the fastest, or have the most power, but everything will work well.

As for finding out the wholesale cost - this information could be misused and screw the whole thing up.

Example; the CSX car has a whole page of options that add up into the (possibly) thousands.

I do know that my dealer lost money on my car. (on my CSX) it was sold at his advertised price, so i cant feel to bad about it.

If you want Cobras to exist, you have to buy them and service them with businesses that are a for-profit enterprise.

WARNING: If you grind a business too far on its cost basis to provide you a custom product, they are probably not going to be there very long.

as far as CSX cars , - the main thing I like about the CSX (glass) is I can lean on the fenders (hehehehe)

Right now , I am removing the HST provided wiring ( with the bilingual scotch-tape tags) and replacing it with the same Kwik-Wire harness that they use on the KMP cars , with a few mods.

I think we need an *electrical* thread on this board. --that way blas and i can focus our energy.

Steve

Steve,

Once you finish the car, it would be great to see a full side by side comparison of the CSX vs. your Superformance

somedayaurora · #5 (**permalink**) 03-01-2010, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Got the Bug

Steve,

Once you finish the car, it would be great to see a full side by side comparison of the CSX vs. your Superformance

agreed
SDR
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bdeutsch · #6 (**permalink**) 03-01-2010, 10:49 AM

for all responses provided.

Again, my intent regarding the initial query, was not directed at driving any Shelby dealer into an adverse business position. It is simply trying to remove emotions from a purchase decision. A point was made in one of the responses that the purchase of a CSX or any Cobra replica (meaning a non-CSX 2000 or 3000 series chassis) for that matter is really about emotion. Hey, no fundamental argument, but at some point, and perhaps it is only me struggling with this, one has to consider the "V' word; aka, value.

Some of the info of most interest learned during the discussion involved the $12k +/- install kit that is not part of the base price (and to be honest, never saw this on the pricing option lists provided by multiple Shelby dealers). So, from a very non-emotional perspective, this takes a $51k roller and quickly turns it into a $63k roller. So, given you have a $63k roller, as say compared to an $85k Ferrari 360 Modena...for me, I default to the value bit mentioned above. But again, that just might be my problem.

Simply no right/wrong to any of this decision process and as mentioned earlier, given the times, seems a bit frivolous.

Bob

RodKnock · #7 (**permalink**) 03-01-2010, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bdeutsch

for all responses provided.

Again, my intent regarding the initial query, was not directed at driving any Shelby dealer into an adverse business position. It is simply trying to remove emotions from a purchase decision. A point was made in one of the responses that the purchase of a CSX or any Cobra replica (meaning a non-CSX 2000 or 3000 series chassis) for that matter is really about emotion. Hey, no fundamental argument, but at some point, and perhaps it is only me struggling with this, one has to consider the "V' word; aka, value.

Some of the info of most interest learned during the discussion involved the $12k +/- install kit that is not part of the base price (and to be honest, never saw this on the pricing option lists provided by multiple Shelby dealers). So, from a very non-emotional perspective, this takes a $51k roller and quickly turns it into a $63k roller. So, given you have a $63k roller, as say compared to an $85k Ferrari 360 Modena...for me, I default to the value bit mentioned above. But again, that just might be my problem.

Simply no right/wrong to any of this decision process and as mentioned earlier, given the times, seems a bit frivolous.

Bob

Bob, I'm sure you know this already, but it should be pointed out that accumulating any sort of mileage on one's Ferrari will significantly depreciate the resale price of it. Also, you must factor in the maintenance costs of both cars as well. I love Ferraris, but the initial purchase price doesn't stop me from buying one.

4pipes · #8 (**permalink**) 03-01-2010, 12:16 PM

Bob, if you'd like to discuss the virtues and value of owning a Cobra vs a Ferrari, PM me, I've owned both.

RodKnock · #9 (**permalink**) 03-01-2010, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by PANAVIA

Right now , I am removing the HST provided wiring ( with the bilingual scotch-tape tags) and replacing it with the same Kwik-Wire harness that they use on the KMP cars, with a few mods. Steve

On the CSX, did you find any battery cables labeled "Sharroll Celby."

(One of those "you had to be there" jokes)

somedayaurora · #10 (**permalink**) 03-01-2010, 09:53 AM

Complete/New CSX sold for 75K
Csx 6027 $75k
Started a thread on retail price history
Csx 4000/7000 prices ?
On the wholesale thing , I believe profit is mostly on engine and install . But what about the componete builders likr HMR (is that it , in NY ?) They might have more room to move . Just a thought .
SDR
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somedayaurora · #11 (**permalink**) 03-01-2010, 11:32 AM

Ferrari's are my other want and I ask the same question all the time . Wholesale 360 are supposedly in the $40k's seen some posts on other sites of guys selling for $59k feeling they got every cent . I agree a well maintained high mileage 40k mile 99' 360 is a mid fifty s with the dealer still making coin . But there still depreciating.... cobra's ? I'm not so sure . Are there deals ? sure but is there the same amount of depreciation ? ERA's still seem pretty strong CSX/Kirkam not as much .
SDR
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RodKnock · #12 (**permalink**) 03-01-2010, 12:06 PM

Those Ferrari prices you quote must be for their hardtops, which I personally would never buy. I would have to own a 360 Spyder, if I ever did buy one.

rodneym · #13 (**permalink**) 03-01-2010, 12:21 PM

You mean mileage affects the price of Ferrari's?

That must be why you can't find one with over 30k miles.

somedayaurora · #14 (**permalink**) 03-01-2010, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by RodKnock

Those Ferrari prices you quote must be for their hardtops, which I personally would never buy. I would have to own a 360 Spyder, if I ever did buy one.

You know what they say about guys who buy convertible Ferrari don't you ?

SDR
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RedBarchetta · #15 (**permalink**) 03-01-2010, 12:35 PM

Damn, another day I should have walked to work. That commute cost me plenty.

somedayaurora · #16 (**permalink**) 03-01-2010, 01:02 PM

Red you have a Fcar ?
SDR
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PANAVIA · #17 (**permalink**) 03-08-2010, 01:46 AM

I will definitely do a side -by-side comparison with my CSX and the SPF.

The battery cables in the CSX were marked "hecho-en-taiwan". so Bob pulled them out. I was hoping to fins some that say krikham motorsports, but i cant find a complete legnth of it.

Oddly , we also have some parts on my car marked 4984, as opposed to 4985.

I will be taking photos as we build and modify so others can learn / get ideas.

stephen_becker · #18 (**permalink**) 03-13-2010, 07:29 PM

Dealer cost vs. retail is so low it is not even funny - Also, call your local friendly factory authorized shelby cobra dealer, today, and see how many CSX 6000 cars he has in stock - The law of supply and demand has caught up and there are very few dealers that have any inventory at all

And, oh yes, if you are a factory authorized Shelby Cobra dealer and you sell a CSX roller for less then MSRP ($ 49,995.00 + options) you will lose your dealership - It is very closely watched by SAI and Shelby licensing.

Got the Bug · #19 (**permalink**) 03-13-2010, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by stephen_becker

Dealer cost vs. retail is so low it is not even funny - Also, call your local friendly factory authorized shelby cobra dealer, today, and see how many CSX 6000 cars he has in stock - The law of supply and demand has caught up and there are very few dealers that have any inventory at all

And, oh yes, if you are a factory authorized Shelby Cobra dealer and you sell a CSX roller for less then MSRP ($ 49,995.00 + options) you will lose your dealership - It is very closely watched by SAI and Shelby licensing.

Okay. I've asked this before, but isn't controlling or telling a distributor to sell a product at a specific price called "price fixing?"

I can see where distributors can't advertise a price lower than MSRP, but if you want to sell something below cost and lose your axx, it's your own business.

gsharapa · #20 (**permalink**) 03-13-2010, 08:35 PM

I checked with several dealers back in January and you are right there were not many in stock but I didn't get the impression it was because they were selling fast. The $49K doesn't sound too bad but the key as you stated is +options. Several guys here in Dallas bought some not to long ago and the price was low to mid $40s with a lot of options like stripes. I was looking to do my 6th Cobra (Kirkham FIA my last one) and was interested until I saw the total price with options...........