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05-12-2016, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by RodKnock
I'm starting to get the impression that everyone from NYC is an idiot. 
Bernica, what part of his statement didn't you like? The part about your Shelby being a "repro" or the part about it where he says it's only worth $60,000-$70,000 complete with engine? Or was it the part about McCluskey not doing his own disassembly, prep work, bondo/sanding and painting? |
All of the above.
Calling out McCluskey? Really?
And suggesting Charlie Hutton just tells me that someone has been sitting on their couch watching old re-runs of "American Hot Rod".
'Nuf said. 
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05-12-2016, 01:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bernica
Calling out McCluskey? Really?
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Oh, why not. It's been kind of boring around here anyway.  |
05-12-2016, 01:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bernica
All of the above.
Calling out McCluskey? Really?
And suggesting Charlie Hutton just tells me that someone has been sitting on their couch watching old re-runs of "American Hot Rod".
'Nuf said. |
Sir,
u are living in the past.
I did not call out McClusky. I simply stated $20-$25K to paint a fiberglass car is a lot (Congrats to your financial success if u think that is a reasonable price).
I do not know how much McClusky charges, or if he does the physical work himself. Does he paint the car himself?
It's a fiberglass body car. Fiberglass is fiberglass. Shelby didn't reinvent fiberglass or did he?
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05-12-2016, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by patrickt
Oh, why not. It's been kind of boring around here anyway. |
Says one troll supporting another. 
NYG, I heard the school bell ring, it's time to get back to class. |
05-12-2016, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Bernica
And suggesting Charlie Hutton just tells me that someone has been sitting on their couch watching old re-runs of "American Hot Rod". |
BTW, if this thread is some sort of elaborate way to persuade me to paint my polished aluminum Kirkham, it's not working. |
05-12-2016, 01:45 PM
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NYG:
Sir,
"Nemám čas pro vás"
"Non ho tempo per voi"
Look them up. That should keep you busy for a while and away from polluting decent threads!
Thank you.
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05-12-2016, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by RodKnock
BTW, if this thread is some sort of elaborate way to persuade me to paint my polished aluminum Kirkham, it's not working. |
no way, sir
your Kirkham is perfect. stay naked 4ever.
Seriously, would u pay $20K to paint a fiberglass roller kit car?
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05-12-2016, 01:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bernica
NYG:
Sir,
"Nemám čas pro vás"
"Non ho tempo per voi"
Look them up. That should keep you busy for a while and away from polluting decent threads!
Thank you.
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U avoided a question. maybe Mr Rodney knows. (and I am not calling out Mr. McClusky). Who actually paints the car at his shop, him or an employee?
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05-12-2016, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ASO544
What are the pros and cons of changing the color of a 6000 series glass CSX roller? Do you think it really hurts the value of the car if the paint is done a nicely as it comes from the manufacturer ?
Basically considering going from a Diamond Black with White Stripes to just solid Onyx Black. Is this a huge mistake or bad karma?
Thanks
AKM
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Back on topic...
ASO544, are you considering removing the body or painting it in place on the roller? That will be a big cost difference, of course. I would go with McCluskey's Guardsman Blue myself, but your choice.
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05-12-2016, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by NewYorkGuy
no way, sir
your Kirkham is perfect. stay naked 4ever.
Seriously, would u pay $20K to paint a fiberglass roller kit car?
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If the paint of my "fiberglass roller kit car" had an existing factory paint job that's excellent, then absolutely NO.
If the paint of my "fiberglass roller kit car" was raw fiberglass, say like how ERA sends them to a paint shop, just a body shell, then absolutely NO. ERA has painters that can do a very nice job for far less.
But if my "fiberglass roller kit car" was fully assembled and needed disassembly and then reassembly, had paint that required sanding/stripping, remedial work to be done, then yes, for McCluskey, I would spend $20,000.
However, I would have to speculate that McCluskey's paint jobs are $25,000 and up. They're the best of the best, think "Pebble Beach Concours" and they restore genuine 1960's Cobras. |
05-12-2016, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by NewYorkGuy
U avoided a question. maybe Mr Rodney knows. (and I am not calling out Mr. McClusky). Who actually paints the car at his shop, him or an employee?
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I think that's a question for Siri. I dunno. |
05-12-2016, 04:13 PM
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Nice thread... 
McCluskey paints glass but not necessarily many glass Cobras.
Does Mike paint himself? Is that a serious question?
Luis has been painting historic race cars at Mike's for over 25 years.
Luis is an absolute world class automotive paint artist - rarified craftsmanship.
FYI, the paint that McCluskey delivers is levels above what's on a CSX. That's no dig to Shelby, btw.
As I said in my previous post, the quality is much better but the cost would never be made back later but who cares.
Some people here pay tons of money on our hobby but make left turns into gas stations to save a penny per gallon...  Value is in the eye of the beholder.
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05-12-2016, 07:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rodneym
Nice thread...
McCluskey paints glass but not necessarily many glass Cobras.
Does Mike paint himself? Is that a serious question?
Luis has been painting historic race cars at Mike's for over 25 years.
Luis is an absolute world class automotive paint artist - rarified craftsmanship.
FYI, the paint that McCluskey delivers is levels above what's on a CSX. That's no dig to Shelby.
As I said in my previous post, the quality is much better but the cost will never be made back later but who cares.
Some people here pay tons of money on our hobby but make left turns into a gas stations to save a penny per gallon... Value is in the eyes of the beholder. |
Some of us here respect true craftsmanship and quality...and you pay for that as you should! For me, I'm working on putting some patina on my 98-point car and saying "that's all by me"!
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05-12-2016, 07:34 PM
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Sorry, meant the 98 point paint job, not the whole car! 
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05-12-2016, 07:36 PM
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Sorry, meant the 98 point paint job, not the whole car! |
If you peruse the hi-res shots of the thread I posted earlier this evening you'll feel much better about your points.  |
05-12-2016, 08:02 PM
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Bernica, maybe the San Antonio Spurs can borrow some of those "points" of yours? Oy.
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05-12-2016, 08:07 PM
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I would try really (really) hard NOT to paint it - Very long and tedious process that requires breaking down the entire car to do it correctly. not for the faint of heart (or wallet!)
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05-13-2016, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by patrickt
If you peruse the hi-res shots of the thread I posted earlier this evening you'll feel much better about your points. |
You mean the pics in the Hemmings article you posted about 3.2.9.5?
A very nice car indeed...
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05-13-2016, 10:48 AM
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You mean the pics in the Hemmings article you posted about 3.2.9.5?
A very nice car indeed...
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Yes, but if you take a look at the wiring job in about the next to last or so pic (click on them to get the hi-res shots), it looks like RodKnock did the wiring in a drunken stupor. |
05-13-2016, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by stephen_becker
I would try really (really) hard NOT to paint it - Very long and tedious process that requires breaking down the entire car to do it correctly. not for the faint of heart (or wallet!)
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Stephan is absolutely correct. To have it done right, you won't see the car again for quite some time and you will be writing a pretty fat check!
Also, as previously discussed in this thread, you need to find someone proven and familiar with working on these cars and the entire process IMHO.
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