Painting An Uncompleted 6000 Series Roller

[ASO544]

What are the pros and cons of changing the color of a 6000 series glass CSX roller? Do you think it really hurts the value of the car if the paint is done a nicely as it comes from the manufacturer ?

Basically considering going from a Diamond Black with White Stripes to just solid Onyx Black. Is this a huge mistake or bad karma?

Thanks
AKM

[twobjshelbys]

Send it to McClusky.

[66gtk]

There will be body work needed to get rid of those stripes. Even though they are cleared over, you will have to sand down the entire car to remove any trace of those old tape lines, especially if you are going with black as that reveals all flaws. That being said, I don't see any problem with changing the color of a Cobra to your liking. Hell, Carroll Shelby did it all the time to make the public think he had more than 1 car (:

[CHANMADD]

Originally Posted by ASO544

What are the pros and cons of changing the color of a 6000 series glass CSX roller? Do you think it really hurts the value of the car if the paint is done a nicely as it comes from the manufacturer ?

Basically considering going from a Diamond Black with White Stripes to just solid Onyx Black. Is this a huge mistake or bad karma?

Thanks
AKM

Wrap it .....its easy

[Bernica]

Have you ever owned a black car? The paint job is the entry fee.
To do it right, plan on $10-15k for something that has been thoroughly scrubbed and polished up right. They are beautiful in black, I agree. Just know what you are getting into...

[ACademic]

Originally Posted by Bernica

Have you ever owned a black car? The paint job is the entry fee.

I tried to tell rodneym that and he didn't listen. But now he's really good with a DA and a cabinet full of varying grades of pads and compounds. ;-)

[twobjshelbys]

Originally Posted by Bernica

Have you ever owned a black car? The paint job is the entry fee.
To do it right, plan on $10-15k for something that has been thoroughly scrubbed and polished up right. They are beautiful in black, I agree. Just know what you are getting into...

I've owned three black cars and one British Racing Green Cobra. Black is not a job, it's a career. They look great when they are freshly detailed, and then it goes downhill from there. I would just get my two black Shelby GT Mustangs would be clean and then I'd have to go around and start over again.

The BRG Cobra had the same problem as black - a really dark background that showed every dust particle.

I wanted a black GT and my wife told me no.

So if you're going to get it repainted, how about the Shelby Guardsman Blue?

P.S. A McClusky paint job will be closer to 20K but it'll be mahvelus!

[rodneym]

In answer to the OP's question:

Pros - better paint job (world class if using McCluskey)

Cons - You won't make that money back.

It's a 4000/6000, do whatever you want. No bad karma to worry about. Besides, I like your plan

PS: black paint being a big deal is dependent on whether you're a waxer or a driver

[xb-60]

Originally Posted by rodneym

...black paint being a big deal is dependent on whether you're a waxer or a driver

Exactly. If you want to be able to enjoy it, just have a nice paint job done and get out and drive it....alternatively, pay a bucket load for a top notch paint job and trailer it (enclosed) everywhere, and don't put sticky tyres (like Avons) on it.

Cheers
Glen

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by rodneym

It's a 4000/6000, do whatever you want. No bad karma to worry about. Besides, I like your plan

There are 1960's Cobras with paint that isn't the original color. I thought I read stories about Shelby changing the color of his cars at times just to sell them. If you want to paint, then paint it. However, I personally wouldn't paint it. The factory paint is nice. If you want another color, then I'd find a car in that color. They're not rare.

Black is beautiful but difficult to maintain as the others have said. I will not own another black car.

[ASO544]

Yes... I currently own a black vehicle and I owned 2 black GT500s in the past. I realize what a PIA they can be but what a looker when cleaned!!!! My may concern was really hurting the value of the car by changing its original color.

I had thought about going Guardsman Blue as well as its a close close second.

[ASO544]

Yes... I currently own a black vehicle and I owned 2 black GT500s in the past. I realize what a PIA they can be but what a looker when cleaned!!!! My may concern was really hurting the value of the car by changing its original color.

I had thought about going Guardsman Blue as well as its a close close second. Nothing is ever easy!!! Lol

[DanEC]

It's already a black car. He just wants to repaint it without the white stripes. No big deal.

[66gtk]

Again, to your question..NO, the value will not be affected other than that whatever you put into making it the color you want will likely be "eaten" by you should you want to sell in the future. It won't make it less valuable, but it won't make it more valuable either. Why a CSX Cobra was ever painted "Diamond" black in the first place is sort of a head scratcher to me. Not a very period type of finish.

I also have owned various black cars including a black ERA Cobra and I presently own a black Shelby GT-H. There is black car maintenance and then there is an entirely other league of black car maintenance. If you elect for a top show quality black paint job with perfect body work underneath and a proper cut/buff finish it is 10 times harder to maintain than a factory type of black car. I know, because I'm living it right now. I had my Shelby repainted as I wanted as close to a perfect car as I could get. It is very difficult work to keep it swirl free. A perfectly flat finish reveals every single thing that a finish with a little orange peel can more easily hide.

I really enjoyed my black ERA, and because of the many curves to the body and relatively small amount of painted surface (compared to a full size car) it wasn't that bad. It took me half the time or less to machine polish it compared to my Shelby and it looked fantastic. If you want a black car, go for it. Just know you have choices about how far to take things.

[RodKnock]

Hurting the value by repainting the car would be the absolute LEAST of my worries. My biggest worry would be pissing away $10,000-$25,000 on redoing a perfectly fine paint job.

If you don't like the paint, then go find another Shelby roller. But that's just my opinion.

[twobjshelbys]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

My biggest worry would be pissing away $10,000-$25,000 on redoing a perfectly fine paint job.

If you don't like the paint, then go find another Shelby roller. But that's just my opinion.

We don't know what he is going to be paying for the roller. It may be a good enough price that the cost of a repaint can easily be absorbed.

If not then I agree with the second half.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by twobjshelbys

We don't know what he is going to be paying for the roller. It may be a good enough price that the cost of a repaint can easily be absorbed.

If not then I agree with the second half.

IMO, even if you paid a $1 for the roller, spending $10,000-$25,000 on an unnecessary paint job is a waste of money to me. There's nothing wrong with black with white stripes. Spend the paint/additional money on a Cammer!

Or buy a Honda Accord or invest in JNJ or something.

[NewYorkGuy]

how much does McClusky charge to paint a fiberglass reproduction Cobra? $20-$25K Really? Does he paint himself or his paint guy does the physical labor?

that's crazy $$$$ for a repro car worth maybe $60-$70K complete with engine?

If u gonna blow that amount, get a real painter who actually paints the car and doesn't farm it out to his Staff. Call Charley Hutton. he charges way less than $25K.

[Bernica]

Originally Posted by NewYorkGuy

how much does McClusky charge to paint a fiberglass reproduction Cobra? $20-$25K Really? Does he paint himself or his paint guy does the physical labor?

that's crazy $$$$ for a repro car worth maybe $60-$70K complete with engine?

If u gonna blow that amount, get a real painter who actually paints the car and doesn't farm it out to his Staff. Call Charley Hutton. he charges way less than $25K.

Well, that's the most uninformed post on this thread. I will leave it at that.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by Bernica

Well, that's the most uninformed post on this thread. I will leave it at that.

I'm starting to get the impression that everyone from NYC is an idiot.

Bernica, what part of his statement didn't you like? The part about your Shelby being a "repro" or the part about it where he says it's only worth $60,000-$70,000 complete with engine? Or was it the part about McCluskey not doing his own disassembly, prep work, bondo/sanding and painting?

Personally, I'd find Earl Scheib and get him to paint it. Is he still alive?

This NYG person is a goldmine of entertainment.