Mecum May 2019 - Wow

[1985 CCX]

Will be an exciting auction Friday in May when Steve's collection goes to market.

[1985 CCX]

Anyone see this auction......

[1985 CCX]

Found this

https://www.motoringresearch.com/car...no-collection/

[1985 CCX]

This S/C started in N.H.

[LMH]

Not to change the subject but THATS what the radiator fan is supposed to look like on an SC! Not dual fans!
Larry

[Jim Vander Wal]

I was there on Saturday. The Juliano Cobras were great.
Didn't bid on anything but was tempted.
Jim

[peterpjb]

will never understand why the 427 are so much higher rated compared to the 289....

[66gtk]

Originally Posted by peterpjb

will never understand why the 427 are so much higher rated compared to the 289....

production numbers, for one.

[desgros@vtlink.]

Apparently big motors with lots of power are what many drivers like.


John

ERA Slabside #3010 289 BRG

[CSX3183]

Maybe also because they are meaner looking, more aggressive looking, more manly looking, and with the fender bulge's sexier, as my wife says, 289's look like a woman's car

[desgros@vtlink.]

Slabside AC's are certainly more refined looking than the big block cars. As one would expect very British looking.


John

ERA Slabside #3010 289 BRG

[SunDude]

Auction results:

- CSX2093 - SOLD hammer price $700,000 USD
- CSX2416 - SOLD hammer price $1,600,000 USD
- CSX2427 - DNS high bid $1,400,000 USD
- CSX2588 - DNS high bid $875,000 USD
- CSX3042 - SOLD hammer price $2,600,000 USD
- CSX3173 - SOLD hammer price $2,200,000 USD
- CSX3318 - DNS high bid $1,350,000 USD

[Sawdust]

Thanks for the update Brian

[Anthony]

I was there. Cars were impressive !

I liked the Norwood ferrari P4 as well.

Bought something as well !

[Cobra #3170]

CSX3173 has incorrect wheels. Surprised they did not stay with original Halibrand 7.5's

[Blue66]

Originally Posted by 1985 CCX

This S/C started in N.H.

Back in 66/67 my buddy and I would go up to Grappone Ford every couple months. This is what 17 year old kids did back then. Car was sitting in there "showroom" for years. We got a lot of Shelby lit to hallucinate about. From what I remember I think the showroom held 1 or 2 cars .. Tasca Ford was another place we hit for years. They had a LOT of cool stuff

[Dan Case]

Originally Posted by Cobra #3170

CSX3173 has incorrect wheels. Surprised they did not stay with original Halibrand 7.5's

The Registry indicates it was sold new with Sunburst wheels. A picture taken by the original owner in 1966 of the car sure looks like Sunburst wheels are on it.

Some CSX31xx car owners had a conversation with the registrar at the event in Arkansas recently on the subject of which wheels came on the cars day one. Three CSX31xx cars were being driving in the event, both type of wheels were represented on cars. Which wheels CSX31xx cars got depended not on chassis number but when particular cars were finished, when they were shipped out, and what wheels were available at the time. Halibrand (COBRA II wheels) and KH (Sunbursts) were both having production and order fulfillment issues at the same time, which delayed delivery to customers of some cars.

[Cobra #3170]

Originally Posted by Dan Case

The Registry indicates it was sold new with Sunburst wheels. A picture taken by the original owner in 1966 of the car sure looks like Sunburst wheels are on it.

Some CSX31xx car owners had a conversation with the registrar at the event in Arkansas recently on the subject of which wheels came on the cars day one. Three CSX31xx cars were being driving in the event, both type of wheels were represented on cars. Which wheels CSX31xx cars got depended not on chassis number but when particular cars were finished, when they were shipped out, and what wheels were available at the time. Halibrand (COBRA II wheels) and KH (Sunbursts) were both having production and order fulfillment issues at the same time, which delayed delivery to customers of some cars.

When I purchased my car only 7.5 and 9.5 Halibrands were available. I visited the airport facility several times in 65 and 66 and never saw a car with sunburst wheels.
I was told by Ed Leslie (my dealer) that the aluminum sunburst wheels were being brought in as a cost reduction measure because Ford was unhappy with the business model and wanted to reduce costs. The first sunbursts I saw were on a 428 car. This is all anecdotal but I was really into the cars and looked at everyone I ever saw. We had about 5 Cobras in Fresno in those days (even a narrow hip 427) and George Harm's SC (Dick Smith bought it later) my car and the others all had Halibrands. I don't doubt you, but never saw a sunburst before 1967 on any cars. All the people that had original cars
thought sunburst's were cheap and undesirable, how things change! Another point of interest nobody called their car a Shelby Cobra they were referred to as AC Cobras by most owners so as not to be confused with GT350 Mustangs.

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by Cobra #3170

I was told by Ed Leslie (my dealer) that the aluminum sunburst wheels were being brought in as a cost reduction measure because Ford was unhappy with the business model and wanted to reduce costs. The first sunbursts I saw were on a 428 car. ----- All the people that had original cars
thought sunburst's were cheap and undesirable, how things change!

So, what is the real story on installing the 428's ?
Was it just cheaper, and to make more profit ?
Or, was there truly a shortage of 427's, and 428's were installed as they were more readily available ?

[Cobra #3170]

Originally Posted by Anthony

So, what is the real story on installing the 428's ?
Was it just cheaper, and to make more profit ?
Or, was there truly a shortage of 427's, and 428's were installed as they were more readily available ?

Ed Leslie (a Shelby team driver) told me it was to improve the profit margin on the 427 cars. He said that after they made the change they could not sell cars so they went back to the 427 engine. The cars initial base price was $7495 but they discounted them later on because they were not selling well. It was a very expensive car that was fast but had so many flaws like poor wipers, crappy heater defroster, water leaks, interior noise levels and oil leaks that people were not lining up to buy them. You had to be a die hard speed freak to want one.
I saw used SC's going for $5500 in 1968. They were certainly not a financial success by most standards. I think the prices started climbing in the early 1970's when people began to realize how rare they were. Ed flew into Fresno in 1966 with his buddy in a Mooney to bring me my 9.5 rear wheels which were not delivered with the car. I had a Strope blue printed 427 with a cam and port work in it and wanted to give Ed a ride. He said Kid, the only way I would get in that car with you at the wheel would be if the keys were in my pocket! I always thought that was very funny, but in retrospect he was on the money.